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Two problems here...
Two problems here, illegal immigration and wholesale gun ownership.
What's an illegal immigrant doing with an AK?
What's anyone doing with an AK?
It's not a hunting rifle, it's not a target rifle. It's for one thing and one thing only, Killing....
We should be focusing on the "open" gun ownership as much as on illegal immigration.
So Saigon
You choose to bring up the big bad AK and ignore the facts of the story. First off the AK is a banned weapon in California. So wholesale gun ownership as you call it isn't to blame. The question should be why was this criminal on the street to begin with. As a minor he committed felonies but was protected by the city from federal authorities who would have deported him. Then as a adult not 2 months before this killing he was found in possession of a gun used in a double homicide and again was released. The man is a killer and guns are the tools he uses to commit his killings. It will turn out that the AK was stolen as was the hand gun in the prior killings. So while you choose to blame the gun I will stick to the criminal and the criminal activities of the city that allowed it to happen. When the city chose to violate federal law and become a sanctuary city they planted the seeds for the events described in the story.
Bcuz0...
I'm pointing out that the guns need to go.... ANYONE, including this criminal can get their hands on a "banned" firearm. Guns gotta go, they have no place in todays society.
Period...
I'm not surprised
You feel that way. My point is that old and cliche, guns don't kill people people kill people. And when you out law guns only outlaws will have them.
Only Outlaws will have them...
Only Outlaws will have them, yes. Then round up the outlaws, get rid of them, then let the "responsible" gun owners register the firearms and use them responsibily.
I think that most do
I guess you haven't tried to buy a gun. Responsible gun owner have to jump through more hoops to prove that they are responsible. And I have no problem with registration except for the fact that if people such as yourself who feel that no one should have gun would use the registration to take them away from said owners.
Bcuz0
I don't believe in Gun Ownership, personally. It's been over 20 years since I've owned one.
Agreed, responsible owners are here, but for every "responsible" one there are 15 irresponsible ones.
In Japan, it takes several years of paperwork to have ownership. Before you take your gun out, you have to notify the proper officials. Now I'm not saying we should be as strict as the Japanese, but we need to get every gun off the street now, then re-distribute them to responsible owners and make them responsible if something goes wrong or one is lost..
I know that's not going to happen, but if I were King, it would.
I don't own one either
And while I chose not to be a gun owner I also believe in the right to be a gun owner. I have never heard of anyone loosing their gun I've heard of them being stolen but never lost. As for your 15-1 ratio I think even you know that is stretching it.Please put the blame where it belongs in this story, with the city of San Francisco.
Criminal Illegal Aliens
They are just here to do the violent crimes the rest of us don't want to do.
What a mess
People are trying to blame the city, but while working on a civil case, I tried getting hold of Immigration and they don't even answer their phones. Immigration is a bureaucratic mess since they combined with Homeland Security.
That idiot Tancredo must be up for re-election. He thinks that San Francisco should cede jurisdiction? Maybe he should tend to the affairs of his state instead of sticking his nose where it doesn’t belong.
Did you read the story?
After reading the story you should see that the city is to blame. By creating their sanctuary status they invited the criminal element into the city. They had the person in question in custody twice as a minor for felonies and once not two months prior to the killings as an adult. They shielded him from the federal authorities and cost three people their lives in the process. While I think Tancredo is an idiot and he should stick to business of the House in this case I think he's right since the city has shown time and again that they can't deal with the problem they created.
Yes, I did read the story
San Francisco may be a sanctuary city, but in this case they DID contact ICE- who never responded. The exact response I got from the dozens of messages I left for Immigration.
My point is that things are worse since Homeland Security took over immigration. Border States have been complaining for years that the Federal Government refuses to police the borders, supply agents, etc. Now the inefficiency is even worse.
There are a lot of other questions- he possessed a gun that was linked to a homicide- and they let him out of jail- why would they do that? They didn't let him out of jail because he was an immigrant.
These Politicians
Are the same ones that will fine you $1,000 for littering, yet will give killers 10 year sentences and will "rehabilitate" other criminals.
That aside, there is a simple reason that the immigration laws are not enforced: central bankers rule the world, and they envision a borderless, new-world order. These bankers own both democrats and republicans.
Strategery, your last paragraph is right on.
And the reason they envision a borderless world is so that american workers can be worth as much as foreign workers -- up to $2/day.
CD, just Central Bankers? What about the Freemasons,
Rosecrusians, Skull & Bones, Knight Templar, Girl Scouts, Carnies and other Illuminati?
http://www.constitution.org/constit_.htm
Dunno nuthin about them guys. My mom's
dad hinted I should become a Mason, but I never asked him how & I didn't find out you had to ask until he was dead. By then I thought I was a little too old to dress up in costumes and get hazed.