Detox center

I don't understand, need $ for a detox center? I posted something about taxing alcohol & some clown, bobnidaho suggested he's been a bartender & most of them don't care how much people drink. Claims it's all the responsibility of the person drinking.

That tells this taxpayer we need to have a certification for bartenders! If little bobby thinks he can serve someone until they're falling down drunk he shouldn't be a bartender. The bars that hire idiots, don't take responsibilty, then our representatives need to so we don't pay for their ignorance. They are making a fortune & I read editorials everyday complaining about taxes!

If our representatives make people get concealed weapons permits & contractors have to register I don't see why we would let bartenders send people out the door after serving them 10 or 12 drinks. A jerk behind the bar is a concealed weapon! It's a profession, let's get idiots like little bobby out of the game. The fees from certifications could go to the detox center & prisons.

I'm not all about raising or creating taxes but it makes no sense to make people who don't drink pay for the people & businesses making the money while openly admitting they send peoiple out after overserving them & not caring.

Detox centers are mental health...

not the responsibility of any liquor commission. It comes from the health dept. and mental health in general because it's considered an ADDICTION, which is an overall health and safety issue and quite frankly (especially if you are in Malheur County) it devours resources at a heavy rate and the treatment is scarce and on a list here the last time I looked (I know people who were on one).

It costs more than the taxes on alcohol could recover or fund. Alcohol AND drug treatment is expensive (incredibly) as it deals with housing, physical, mental and life skills training issues. A life is not that cheap to rescue, even if you are rich.

Detox is actually one of the least applicable words for the entire scenario.

Liquor comm. is run by gov. & can't do math.

I read an article in the Statesman all about a few hundred thousand $ they need for a detox center. If you are going to call it a detox center & put drunks to bed for 24 or 48 hours, let alcohol pay for it. If drugs are the problem let drugs & the fines pay for it.

Alcohol companies & the businesses involved in sales of alcohol contribute to representatives & get tax cuts in return. The liquor commission brags about all the tax $ brought in through alcohol. Use that $ & campaign contributions to pay for the detox center.

There are all kinds of statistics on alcohol related deaths & costs. Let the billions made on sales pay for the damage done. MADD has a site that claims half a million people dead since 1982 in auto/alcohol related accidents. 3,000 die in 9/11 & we have been in war for years, costing billions if not trillions not to mention more US soldiers? Why are a few thousand worth a war costing trillions when a half million are just a statistic costing US taxpayers & not the people who profit from it?

Half a million die from alcohol, add in all the other costs & people cry about the price of a beer or a million for detox? How many billion does it cost the taxpayers? Jerk behind the bar need to be certified just like having a concealed wepon permit or registering as a contractor. How about a $500 certification for every bartender? They are no different than a drug dealer, it's all about the $ in their pocket. Bartenders claim it isn't their responsibility if someone drinks too much & they serve it up? Bull crap! They call the law when someone gets out of hand after they overserve? They bring it on then call the police & cry about the price of beer when they drink for free + tips. Something wrong with that picture. Profit at your expense in more ways than your realize.

Acohol companies advertise, drink responibly, that's a hoot. They can afford to advertise & contribute, they can afford to pay for a detox center.

If contributions are good enough for Larry Craig's personal legal fees than use contributions from alcohol companies to pay for a detox center. Why would anybody argue about that? Would you rather pay higher property taxes? You quit drinking in 1992, why would you care if alcohol is taxed as long as your property tax doesn't go up? You're going to pay for that drunk tank if you don't get a clue & the people making billions are going to laugh all the way to the bank.

With all the editorials about property taxes I would think people would catch on & hold those making all the money responsible. Take it to your representaives, call Otter. He wants to raise auto registration fees. Tell him to use campaign contributions like Craig does before he uses the money on his next DUI. I've had my fill watching people get rich while I pay the taxes they evade through campaign finance. It isn't rocket science, well maybe in Idaho.

Simple!

Property taxes WILL increase, no matter how many millions of things you add surcharges to.

I don't own any properties. My parents own a small house I want to inherit someday. I would love to die in a place I own.

The Statesman had two articles in today's paper

Lynnwood WA, Man held after crash has had 15 DUI arrests, five convictions & Drunk driver slams into a minivan killing five, driving north on southbound I280 in Ohio. Do the taxes generated through the sale of alcohol offset the damage done?

Prisons are going to need a billion over the next ten years with almost 90% of imates locked up for alcohol & drug related offences. Need a detox center & that will cost millions to run. Police, courts, county jail, & a list that will never end. Half million people have been killed in auto/alcohol related accidents since 1982, almost 18,000 a year. The state pays people to sell alcohol & brags about seven million increase in alcohol sales. What sense does that make? Let private business run liquor stores & pay the wages. Take campaign contributions alcohol companies give to our employees & use it to pay for the damage it causes.

Don't worry, your chances of getting killed in a place you own are getting better everyday. A drunk driver will pull in one night & your little house on the prairie will be more than just a dream, it'll be a nightmare.

The only reason taxes increase is because We the People stand by & allow our misrepresenatives to sell US out the highest bidder through campaign contributions & give tax cuts back in return. Tax cuts We absorb which makes your taxes go UP! In 1940 corporations paid 50% of taxes, today they pay 10%. Guess who pays the forty they used to pay plus fifty we always paid & why.
You & Campaign finance!

Connection?

1 pathetic drunk-@@@ murder and how taxes and election screw us?

Booji's been lookin' for you--he needs to talk.

One?

You might want to take a closer look. 17,600 a year, 500,000 since 1982. If you're 41 & have never owned your own home, you might want to ask mom & dad if you can move out. What would you know about paying taxes? Instead of buying you're going to wait for your parents to pass? Some people's kids.

Would you shut up?

I've been out of the house since 1984.

I'm going to buy a house with WHAT? Fairy Dust?

Have you been drinking from Britney Spears' baby bottle?

If asking what you would buy a house with doesn't tell you

something I guess it's clear.

That is exactly what we end up with throught the representation I've been bashing & trying to get people to bring under control. Tax & take campaign contributions,cut their pay & benefits like ours have been, & use the money as tax relief so we have more for US! What is America about? The dirt, the corporations or We the People.

I read on another post that you don't care. You were told you should or better care but evidently you don't get it. Going to go watch something on your $50, self made ultimate wet dream, home entertainment world. We the People won't have squat if we all do as you do. Sounds like that's why you have what you do.

Go watch another old movie on your big screen super TV. That is more than likely how government controls you, like the old commercials that blow by so fast only your subconscious see it & you buy in. Government has worked for three hundred years, I guess it'll work for another three hundred. When I heard some idiot say that I laughed for a week.

Hey! I hear Dubya calling.

You're getting sleepy, your eyes are getting heavy, give me all your money & I'll make sure you have all you need. Government whispering sweet nothings in your ear? All you need to do now is give Benny Hinn all your worldly posessions & you'll have a place next to GOD, if there's room next to all those suicide bombers waiting in line for their virgins. Don't forget to let Benny slap you, a few times to chase away the evil spirits so you can walk again. Evil spirits, evil doers, it's all scare tactics & manipulation so they can have your money.

Evidently it's working, not just on you but millions of taxpayers who don't have the balls or brain they were born with. Now they don't have the money they make either, they gave it to taxes so corporate unAmerica & our misrepresentatives get richer.

Fairy dust? Has Uncle Larry been over again?

What exactly is your prob and what's your name?

Why do you seem to think you have a coherent argument either?

Stalker, I guess.

Who replied to what?

Go back, look at anything you post, it's always a reply or comment about something someone else posts. Who's the stalker?

You type, I reply.

I don't even know what you're complaining about anymore, Larry. Call Britney, she needs a better boyfriend than some jackal photographer.

If I were a stalker perhaps I'd have fixed this computer last night. Gimme a break. I don't live here either...