Navy AD calls Boise State deal 'outrageous,' says 'Boise wasn’t worth it' to Big East

By Brian Murphy
bmurphy@idahostatesman.com

Boise State's demands of the Big East were "outrageous and unprecedented," Navy Athletic Director Chet Gladchuk told the Capital Gazette.

Boise State agreed Monday to remain an all-sports member of the Mountain West rather than join the Big East as a football-only member in July. Navy is scheduled to join the Big East as a football-only member in 2015.

Gladchuk said the Big East athletic directors were kept up to speed on the negotiations by Commissioner Mike Aresco.

“What Boise State wanted was outrageous and unprecedented. It was not palatable to any of the other Big East institutions,” Gladchuk said. “In the final analysis, Boise wasn’t worth it. There is zero television interest in Boise along the Eastern seaboard. What it tells me is the Mountain West was desperate. Clearly, the Mountain West was willing to make whatever concessions necessary to keep Boise in the fold.”

The Mountain West agreed to sell Boise State's home football rights outside of the league's current television contract and agreed to pay national television bonuses and split bowl profits 50-50 between the participating team and the conference.

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Navy Interest

The Army Navy game on CBS ( free TV ) drew a 4.4 rating. The BSU v. UW game on ESPN ( paid TV ) drew a 3.3. With all due respect to the academies, Navy doesn't turn on a lot of TV's either. Wouldn't be surprised if Navy didn't join the Big East either.

Who cares

what he thinks. The only draw that the service academies have is the competition among themselves. The Army-Navy game long ago lost its luster when TV advanced beyond three channels.

Eastern Football

In the large Eastern TV markets, NFL, not college, football is king.
In much of the East, college basketball is more popular than college football.
Even before the Big East started to implode, BSU should have known that Big East football was not the "Goose with the Golden Egg". Losing AQ status after 2013, was all one needed to know.
When founding members of the Big East began to leave, it should have been clear that this emperor had no clothes.

It is well worth remembering that to many, perhaps most, of the East, Idaho and Iowa are the same place.

Birddog...VNDL Discovered

Several weeks ago VNDL visited family on the east coast and also came to the conclusion that CFB is not nearly as popular as the NFL. Meanwhile, there's an article that was written (SI, ESPN, CBS...I don't recall the exact publisher) that stated CFB is much more popular in the west because there are fewer professional teams.

SIF - By Jove, I think you've got it !!!

Yep - it sure seems that in the West where we do not have as many professional football teams as in the East, that CFB is more popular than in the East.

I saw it first hand when I spent 2 weeks on the East Coast around Thanksgiving time (which you referred to).

However, when I reported the fact that the BSU Broncos were not known in the East because sports fans in the East are into pro football and not CFB, there was a rush to gut shoot and kastrakate me.

The best move Bronco Bob ever did was to reverse himself and welsh on his own decision of having the BSU Broncos join the Big East for football and dump his initial decision and go back and back out of his first decision and decide for BSU Broncos to quit the Big East conference, before they were even really in the conference to begin with.

AND, on top of that!!!

Wait for it.

Wait for it.

Wait for it.

It only cost Bronco Bob $5 million dollars to get Big East approval of his decision to renege on his first decision.

(MWC will supposedly pay $3M of the $5M, maybe).

Go Broncos.

VNDL

BAA Member # 63799

PS - Also, there has been hardly any real BSU Bronco showing in the Magic Valley this year. A couple of pickup trucks with 2C plates and 5th wheel livestock trailers passing through with loads of pigs headed to the hot dog factory is about all. I sure wish BSU would do more advertising and get the Bronco Football message out better like they used to do before they became internationally famous and TV media tycoons.

VNDL you confirmed what I learned...

I simply reported that you wrote about your observations while on your vacation which confirmed what I learned reading an article about why CFB is so popular in the western portion of the USA and why the popularity of CFB decreases when moving towards the eastern portion of the USA.

My degree from UI is Applied Economic Geography...so you can probably understand my attraction to the geographical differences in the per capital interest in CFB. It is just my DNA...

Therefore, I'm only reporting what I learned and confirming it with your direct observation.

The premise of the article that I read was, "we as a society gravitate towards the best". Therefore, along the eastern seaboard there are a multiple number of NFL football teams who's athletes performances demands the most attention. For example, in Megopolis there are 2 teams in New York, 2 teams in Baltimore/Wash DC, 2 teams in PA and of course New England (Foxboro is on the MA/RI border).

As a result, the importantance of CFB dimishes exponentially in the east. However, in the western USA there are significantly fewer households and these households are still competing with CFB. Unfortunately the Seahawks have a greater following in Boise than the Broncos.

I will probably get kastrated and hung for that statement on this sight...but it is the truth.

Since there are relatively few professional teams in the western USA cities the local college football teams are more popular. However, the density of households/TV's is less dense and therefore the value of each household is diminished.

Geeze...as for Bronco Bob (known a KrustLy in other parts of the State) he should be made accountable for the money he cost to the BSU athletic program. If the MWC covers $3 million of the $5 million exit fee he should be accountable for the loss of $2 million. Then, of course theres the cost to exit the Big West...who pays fee?

Shouldn't Bronco Bob be held accountable?

I'm afraid the CBF's and DBF's are going to quickly sweep this under the carpet.

That makes me feel like I'm cranky and my hormones are out of wack...

SIF, don't want to rain on your

parade.....But

The B1G taking Maryland and Rutgers shoots your theory full of holes. Rough estimates have the B1G realizing an additional $100M a year from these two media "darlings".

To put that into perspective those two teams (markets) are worth 5 times what the entire MWC is worth.....

BSU4342

Don't worry...you are not raining on my parade.

I have a friend living in DC who is a UM Alumni and absolutely hates the fact the Terps are leaving the ACC. The Terps may have just lost a follower while the Redskins gained a fan.

In the meantime...there's still UCONN and Cincy...what will be their destiny? Does the ACC, BIG 10, SEC and MAYBE the Big 12 have the abiltity to assimulate them into the the BIG 5 without diluting the TV earnings?

For some reason...I don't think they can and therefore I think separation is about to begin and the bubble will burst for the want to be's.../

SIF

Blog-spere is heavy the last few days that the B1G has offered both UNC and UVA.

I'm not a buyer on more expansion myself, mainly for the reason you gave. But I also think the big 4 are going to sit tight and see how this $52M ACC/Maryland exit fee plays out. I think this is ground-zero of further expansion.

BSU4342

I hadn't heard about UVA and UNC though I did read about the possibility several weeks ago. If so, the B1G is being aggressive and manuevering to outflank the SEC for control of TV sets.

It's True

In areas where the human population is greater than the sheep/cattle population, professional sports drive the bus. College might as well be intramural.

CITE!

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Swim Baby Swim

Didn't Navy barely beat Army this year? Anyway...focus on building soldiers...
Series Record: Navy 57–Army 49–Tied 7 The only stat anyone cares about when the Academies are involved.

17-13 isn't quite BARELY, although it was close and hard fought.

If you had noticed, Army QB Trent Stillman was fairly heartbroken by not being able to beat Navy in his run at the academy. It was an excellent game.

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Whew--dodged bullet (or was it a harpoon?)

If "zero" interest over there, sure glad Boise didn't go. But zero is a pretty low number--what about the sailors onboard the USS Boise?? Even a few fans would get above zero.

By the time Navy busts a move, there may not be a Big East anyway.

Ha!

Put a Navy game and a BSU game on ESPN and reap your crow in the ratings Chet.

Chester...

Sounds like sour grapes buddy. The service academies are great institutions and I always pull for them (except when they play the Broncos) but honestly Chet, no one cares what the AD from Navy thinks. Navy is not even part of the Big East yet. After the last of the football teams leave maybe they should rename it to Little East.

Just more negativity from B. M.

If it has to do with Boise State and IF it's NEGATIVE.......you can count on B.M. to "report" on it.

P.S. It's EXTREMELY appropriate that his initials are B. M. I feel a B.M. coming on right now after reading this negative "story".

It's his JOB to report it ...

The Navy AD said this, not Brian. If he didn't report it, there would be a huge uproar with people calling him a homer or whatever.

Besides, I don't see it as a negative against Boise State. I think it says a lot more about the Navy AD.

I always thought you were a

BM?

Negative Report

How do you figure its a negative report? Some AD expressed an opinion on the terms BSU was negotiating for a contract and it got reported. Its not a negative for BSU or Navy. The Navy AD is right on a lot of points. The main ones being that BSU would have had little interest to the East coast and that it is a small TV market. All valid points.

If anything I think his comments reinforce that moving back to the MWC is a good move. The fact that Dr. Kustra was able to negotiate a good deal in order to make that happen is all positive in my view. Go Broncos.

Whoa, what a surpise

An academy guy acting arrogant and talking out his behind. Par for the course. Why the public is still funding division 1 athletics for the academies is beyond me. You would think they would have better things to do with that money.

NAVY -BSU

Let the Navy AD put his money where his mouth is and schedule BSU. He thinks BSU isn't worth the trouble, etc, to get them in the Big East. Navy hasn't fared well against teams from the west. They had to go to overtime to beat Air Force (MW) and AF won only five games all year. They lost to San Jose State (WAC) at home and lost to Arizona State (PAC 12) in their bowl game. They did beat Texas State (WAC) at home. I think that the AD's rant is his way of saying "We don't want to have to play BSU".

Good observation, irishgal and probably closest to the truth!

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Understand his frustration...

but seems like pretty ignorant thing to say out of spite. If we weren't bringing anything to the table than why did they want in and why wouldn't they give us rights to something that had no value? Perhaps he was talking about the bonus checks for being on national television, which I guess I am baffled as to how the MWC can pay out for those as well.

hobycat11

This difference is that every Big East program is in a top 50 TV market (total TV households 16M+) and the MWC/WAC has only 3 programs in top 50 TV markets, in fact, half the conference doesn't even crack the top 70 (total TV households 6M+).

Boise State's "TV" value is much higher to the MWC than the Big East because the MWC/WAC TV "footprint" is pretty small time.

BSU4342

I think this will be a missed opportunity...so I'll just leave it to the ole song, "Ride Captain Ride Your Mystery Ship".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAx9h_R23PQ

Thanks

for the chuckle......

(and yes, I watched the whole thing)

Φ Better quality here.

Oldie and a goldie.

http://vimeo.com/13871239

:-)

Nice! Very much a goldie...

Not surprised

After reading an ESPN article a week earlier about the speculation and criticism of BSU's position it became apparent how other BE institutions were going to react. It seems that a lot of people have gone out of their way to accomodate BSU and get run over in the process. I worry that Bronco Bob conducting business in this manner is going to limit BSU's future partnerships. Finally, I think the MWC (The Hair) was desperate and I wonder how long this relationship will last before other members (except Wyoming) decide they don't like this deal?

Right now BSU is hot and can

Right now BSU is hot and can command deals. Why should anyone begrudge BSU getting the best deal it can? I am sorry whatever the Navy AD said is really a non story about a college who does not have a football team of interest. What else can I say?
Good luck to the cadets.

HUH?

Are you kidding me? Did you bother to read the link to the article that Murph provided? Seems to me that BSU is not hot enough to command the deal they demanded from the BE. What else can I say?

It seems that Bronco Bob

negotiated an "outrageous deal". Can't wait to see what the outcome is, but if other schools are this bothered, it could mean that Boise State slipped out of the "little sisters of the poor" holding tank again.

navy

got hammered so badly against arizona state that i believe the navy ad has more important things to worry about.

Navy

LOL... why on earth does the Navy athletic director even get a say in Big East happenings? Navy has been more wishy washy on joining the Big East than Kim Kardashian trying decide who she is going to sleep with next...

Φ Who is

Kim Kardashian? Is this someone important ... like an ambassador or car battery salesperson?

I take it you've lived in a chicken shack since 1973.

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Seriously???

Navy delayed their entrance date because they chose to HONOR their contracts. Where have you been?

BTW I think Kim solved that problem.

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Terminate Uncle Bob and the Pompous Coach

Good for you NAVY AD

Pompous Coach?

Weisberg thank you for taking time out from your Craiglist rants to join us with your usual fantasy kindergarten soccer raves. Why don't you go ahead and take the rest of the day off. Enjoy another JD and see you next week.

Boise brings nothing to the table????

Odd how an AD from a school that is not in the Big East yet is complaining that Boise State brings nothing to the table. It seems to me that of the list of those to play in a BCS (big money)game is void of any Service Academy team of any name. Boise State has their name on that list twice. As far as ZERO interest in that division to have a Western team, maybe that is true but I think not. Boise State at (neutral site) VT a few years back had a huge audience and not just from Idaho viewers obviously. A lot of comments saying its just sour grapes from the Navy AD, possibly but it sounds more like a knee jerk reaction to a real competitor moving in on other non-competitive schools. More than likely both the conference and BSU dodged the bullet here, BSU by not joining a less than competitive conference and a conference that prefers to squander there opportunity to raise their competition to a BCS level of play just to keep their diminishing list of schools that want to win a tired conference title.

To be fair

The Navy AD didn't say "Boise brings nothing to the table".

He commented that what BSU wanted from a TV stand point wasn't worth it.

Nothing to the table

Also, if BSU brings nothing to the table then why did the Big East go to Boise for membership before ever going to Navy? We must bring more to the table than Navy.

MWC opinion

Per your president: San diego was loyal to BSU, therefore BSU is loyal to SD. What about loyalty to the rest of the MWC teams? that appears to be the problem with BSU. they are loyal to no one. watch and see - they will jump ship again when the next chance comes along. there is no guaranty that they will be the champions next year. some of the rest of the MWC teams are very competitive. BSU was not that good last year.

george

"some of the rest of the MWC teams are very competitive"

"BSU was not that good last year"

BSU was 7-1 and co-champions of the conference

George II

Boise State joined the MWC looking to improve their chances of getting into an AQ conference (which the MW was in line to do). The MWC promtly lost it's 3 best teams (TCU, Utah, BYU ...so much for loyalty). Even with teams from the WAC moving over to the MWC (Nevada, Fresno St., Hawaii ..... loyalty?), the MWC did not receive it's hoped for AQ status from the BCS, and they were saddled with a TV contract that assured most of the games would not be seen by anyone other than ardent followers of a particular school willing to search the outer reaches of their 600 cable stations to find the game. The teams remaining in the MWC (except possibly Air Force) have no other options so they have remained .... loyal. Boise State and SDSU did what was in their best interest, but in the long run it was also in the best interest of the MWC since the TV contact with CBS has been renegotiated to give teams greater control of their home games outside of the ones that CBS picks to broadcast.

Wouldn't it be interesting if in 5 years the MWC was on par with the ACC and considered one of the big 6 conferences? I'm not saying that it's going to happen, and the MWC would have to ad a few more "disloyal" programs willing to shift conferences, but that would be great.

George III (the one we left to become a nation)...

If we weren't loyal then why on Earth would we realize our error and return?

President Kustra has tried to do what his fans wished for and it may be that the ones here and in a couple other spots are simply louder and more vociferous.

The REAL point here is that college football has been a NUTTY situation full of impatient schools jockeying for better recognition and more power over their sporting destinies. This sort of nervousness hasn't been seen in years, if at all, and TELEVISION did not play that much of a part in the past. It didn't play in the founding of the ORIGINAL major bowl games nor in the foundation of the NCAA college BASKETBALL tournament and championship either (OREGON being the champion in 1939 with no standard television system and networking outside of Britain is your proof).

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When in the course of human events....

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

I'm no lawyer, but I think BSU has a constitutional right to change conferences if it so desires. But this kind of thinking came from a bunch of disloyal colonist.