Idaho Statesman bowl projections: Boise State-UCLA in Las Vegas, Utah State-Toledo in Boise

By Chadd Cripe
ccripe@idahostatesman.com
© 2012 Idaho Statesman

Here are my bowl projections for this week:

New Mexico (MW vs. Pac-12), Dec. 15, Albuquerque: Nevada vs. Arizona: Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson told the Fresno Bee last week that New Mexico didn’t make sense for Fresno State (repeat visitor), so I put Nevada here.

Famous Idaho Potato (WAC vs. MAC), Dec. 15, Boise: Utah State vs. Toledo: The Potato Bowl should be a good game again this year. Utah State is having an outstanding season and still could win the WAC and the MAC has enough good teams to send someone with a gaudy record to Boise.

Poinsettia (MW vs. BYU), Dec. 20, San Diego: San Diego State vs. BYU: This is the biggest no-brainer on the list.

MAACO (MW vs. Pac-12), Dec. 22, Las Vegas: Boise State vs. UCLA: If the Broncos win out, they’re still by far the most attractive team because of their name, TV value and likely Top 25 ranking. And unlike Fresno/New Mexico above, the Mountain West doesn’t have any control to prevent a team from going to Las Vegas three years in a row. The opponent will be better if the Pac-12 only gets one team into the BCS — the USC-UCLA loser seems likely — than if the Pac-12 gets two.

Hawaii (MW vs. C-USA), Dec. 24, Honolulu: Fresno State vs. Houston: This would be a nice reward for the Bulldogs if they share the conference title.

Armed Forces (MW vs. C-USA), Dec. 29, Fort Worth, Texas: Air Force vs. East Carolina: Air Force’s attractiveness took a hit with last week’s loss to Army. The Falcons still have to play Fresno State and San Diego State, too.

Rose (Pac-12 vs. Big Ten), Jan. 1, Pasadena, Calif.: Oklahoma vs. Nebraska: The Pac-12 might sneak a second team into the top 14, but Oregon State probably has to beat Stanford. The Rose could take Notre Dame but if the Irish are undefeated there will be pressure to let them go to the Fiesta.

Orange (ACC vs. BCS), Jan. 1, Miami: Florida State vs. Louisville: A chance for Louisville to build some serious poll momentum going into next year.

Sugar (SEC vs. BCS), Jan. 2, New Orleans: Florida vs. Clemson: Clemson is rooting hard against the Pac-12 getting a second bid. That could determine whether the Tigers get a spot.

Fiesta (Big 12 vs. BCS), Jan. 3, Glendale, Ariz.: Kansas State vs. Notre Dame: This could be a matchup of undefeated teams ranked No. 3 and No. 4.

BCS National Championship Game (1 vs. 2), Jan. 7, Miami: Alabama vs. Oregon: If Oregon and Kansas State are undefeated, it will be close. But it’s difficult to imagine Oregon getting left out with its dominance and track record.

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I’m writing about sophomore safety Jeremy Ioane’s homecoming for Saturday’s paper. The Honolulu native gets to play in front of family and friends against Hawaii.

“We’re really pleased with how he’s playing,” coach Chris Petersen said. “I still think his best football is in front of him. He’s a smart player. You’re starting to see signs of him being a physical player. I think both those things will continue to increase in his favor.”

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Hawaii quarterback Sean Schroeder on why Boise State’s defense is so good against the pass:

“Their D-line gets a lot of pressure on the quarterback. It’s hard to be efficient as a quarterback when you’re lying on your back.”

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Boise State linebacker J.C. Percy on the special teams matchup this week:

“Any time we go against a team that has a good special teams unit, it’s going to be a good test, and we’re looking forward to it. Especially after our outing last week, this one’s going to be extra special.”

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Leeches, smeeches, who will drain your poison then?

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Interesting how you made the correlation on

spending extra cash on frivolous things. Are you up for an economics award at THE University of Idaho. Hope they keep an eye on the cow who has a hole in the side of it to make sure no one poors silage juice into it to tamper with the voting. Is sports is fun up for a Nobel prize for identifying the guy that won't fork over $1.39 as a leechy silver spoon man?

Big East?

I can agree, disagree, add, subtract, to any of the 3.

Big East disagree.

Can you share your secrets about best thinkers, cfb forums, and leeches?

razor, no Ugly did not....

know of 5 tie ins....

I see vndls post and cripe's projections and see them....

I usually pay attention to the main 3....sorry....

I have no interest watching a Bowl game where a 6-6 team plays another 6-6 team....

So, as not to ask too much of a dumb question from a brilliant one, so will there be 5 mwc teams in one of the 35 bowls absoultely no matter what? even if one of those is 5 wins and 7 losses ????

Φ ugly, your bilge

is full of 6-6 teams.

Grab your bilge rat-infested abacus and WD-40 for this. You've got 35 bowls and 70 of 120 total teams that will participate.

How far beneath #60 do you think you can go until you run into 6-6?

5 wins doesn't cut it ... or is that just one more rat in your bilge?

razor, your math is wrong - ugly is right again !!!!

35 plus 70 is 105 and not 120.

Maybe put some new batteries in your calculator or turn a flashlight on the little solar deal thingy that makes it work.

Thought you would like to know you are in error.

VNDL

Φ "More incorrectly"

ugly has mastered herding cats.

Let's go slowly for him.

There are 120 FBS teams presently. Of those 120, 70 different teams will play in bowl games. That means 50 will not.

The math is 35x2 = 70 ... and 120-70 = 50. 70 in and 50 out = 120. Grab your WD-40, ugly ... your beads are stuck.

ugly has two advanced degrees, but neither in math. But, he's big into potato chips and advanced cheating (at least on counting strokes on a golf course). Maybe he knows about other forms of cheating ... like buying a large bag of Frito-Lay chips (labeled at 13.5 oz.) and finding 4 chips inside.

razor....dufus....you are responding to vndls post, not

Ugly's....

Yes 35 Bowls and yes 70 teams....look at the history of 7-5 and 6-6 teams....

also, you said 5 tie ins and dummy you are wrong....

Air Force is not guaranteed the Armed Forces Bowl....

Φ There is another dose of

olestra waiting just for you.

The Armed Forces Bowl wouldn't want anything to do with Air Force.

No, no! Let Coast Guard play!

VIVA!

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razor - now that makes sense - finally

if we start with 35 bowls and 50 teams that are not playing in the bowls, and add them together we find out that the number is 85. Then we take the number 120 minus the number 85 and we find out that is 35. Then we take the number 35 and divide it by 2 and we get 18 (rounded off/up); which means that 112 teams are involved with 8 being 'left out'. If we then take the 112 and subtract 85 from that number, we get 25. After we get the 25 we add in the 40 from the WD number you quote and we get 65. We have to then subtract the difference from 70 which the 40 represents and we get 30. Next we subtract that 30 from the 65 and we get 35 which is what you have been saying all along.

I can see how you did it.

I must sit here and say that I have been corrected and not all of the 120 CFB teams can play in the 35 bowls and there will be quite a few left out.

Thanx for your clarification.

You must have been a math major at EWJC?

VNDL

Ugly, I always knew you were retarded,

but you should really consider some medication for the multiple personalities disorder! It is kinda of scary.

If you go to Honk's a dual-powered calculator is only $1.00!

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Except for the 3rd one,

that you can't remember after just reading an article on five of them.

You've got two days to be suspended or banned b4 the paywall

So far you're batting 1.000

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So seriously,

when are we going to kick back some beers and jeer people? I'll buy, but you are on my bucket list to meet so you must comply. Weird I know, but there are just too many stupid people.

This paper isn't worth it's pixels, not even for 99 cents.

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razor - you are wrong again - ugly is right again

The MWC has 5 bowl picks:

1. MAACO Bowl

2. Pointsettia Bowl

3. Armed Forces Bowl

4. Hawaii Bowl

5. New Mexico Bowl

You can learn all about it from reading this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_bids_to_college_bowl_games

Possibly you are a gentleman enough to offer ugly an apology?

Go Broncos.

VNDL

BAA Member # 63799

Φ Make that $1.38.

"Pointsettia Bowl" is worth another 9 cents.

You figured out ... after my post ... that the MWC gets 5 if they qualify. Whoa!

You do know that the CIA is looking for a new director, don't you?

Then P2 will never get it, not from THEM EITHER ;-ppp

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rzr

I agree with Ugs...BSU might end the season with 3 losses this year. They have become a "just above" average team this year.

Try investing in something that has risk,

like a republican who allies with China and enjoys spending. Wall Street is full of them. What's the matter, don't trust them?

VNDL & Ugs

Even though is year is subpar I'm in Hawai'i to watch the game tomorrow. I agree that after losing to MSU that the remainder of the year is a scrimmage for next year or maybe the following year to reach our goal of a natty.

By 3-D thinker, I hope you mean

Dumb
Dense
Dim

DDDuuuhhh!

DDDuuuhhh!

Potato Bowl

A great send-off For the local team in front of their fans.

I'm bit surprised....

that anyone would think SDSU players would want to play in a local bowl. I thought that was why we didnt like playing in the H bowl in Boise when we were in the WAC?? I'm sure we're not going to play BYU again, but after that if its 3 way tie for championship, SDSU and BSU may be down in the order on the pick list.

Thought the goal of bowls....

was to attract fans from out of town? Isnt the Ponsettia bowl in San Diego or is SDSU not in San Diego? Just wondering if I dont know where either is located?

iffiy....think this way....

USC or UCLA wouldnt mind being in the Rose Bowl....
LSU wouldnt mind the NC....
Florida or FSU dont mind the Gator Bowl....
Texas or Texas Tech in the Cotton Bowl....

Φ Don't "mind" it at all.

Always looking for ugly at the "In the Shadow of the Silo Bowl".

razor - always remember - at least for the next 4 days

that you are gonna be gone from here in 4 days, or so you have said.

We know you.

You are not going anywhere because you are addicted to Vandal posts.

VNDL

PS - You haven't said in a long time about a 'get together' of your Out To Lunch Bunch. It might be appropriate for you to have one 'Final Get Together'. Let us know when you are gonna have it. I assume it is gonna be at the Broadway Ram and is open to all who visit these Statesman football boards? Should be fun. Looking forward to it.

News Flash - News Flash - News Flash

Statesman Football Blog sensation, razor, recently announced he is leaving the Statesman football blogs in 4 days when the Statesman starts charging for the opportunity to discuss college football on the Statesman blogs.

When asked about her husband's decision, razor's wife said, "OMG, now what am I gonna do with him off the computer for 7 hours a day!!! It was bad enough when we moved to this God Forsaken Idaho Desert Hel!hole, but now this happens. I don't think I can take it anymore. I gotta bake more cookies and zuchini bread to cope."

Razor plans to buy more cookie mix and zuchini with the money he will be saving from not paying for the Statesman subscription to the football blogs.

No Chance!

The paper goes down with us.

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VNDL

Your humor is the best! Thanks for the chuckle.

Get a life. Fred Meyer will still have sales.

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Soap Night

You guys are sort of funny? Let us now get serious what about the Olympic Sports? Boise State!

weisberg....ugly is not a

swimmer....

What is your opinion of Boise State in the Big East?

Who do you think Boise State will play of PAC 12 in MAACO?

Wberg

I agree...we gotta start by being serious about bringing a March Maddness trophy to Idaho...

cripe....

I like your MAACO pick and I said that very pick a week or so ago....

Boise State v UCLA

very good match....

You have never stated your thoughts, good or bad, on Boise States move to the Big East....

I think that would be a good article in the future Statesman forum....

Will he still have a job?

At least Deeds has other gigs and Rocky can possibly get on with IdahoPTV or go work in Montana.

Boise Weekly isn't going to hire him.

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Φ Fix it, would ya?

substantive

The Statesman is going to charge. I've already posted about David Hemmings.

Men are mortal and they'll charge to see his obit someday. MEH.

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If I'm going to be gone in four daze I don't care about SP.

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Alright ugly....

And I'll bet you will not answer these nor stay on point, but let's give you your chance.

1. The tv monies wont be as profitable as proposed.

What do you mean here? Proposed? Are you saying the TV money is going to be less than $5M for BSU per year? how much less? Are you saying that the MWC TV money is going to the same or better than the BE TV money? Can you clarify what you actually mean here?

2. It will limit Boise States National Championship Chances.

Again, are you saying that playing a MWC conference schedule will give BSU a greater chance at a National championship than playing a Big East conference schedule? If so, can you explain why you think that?

3. It will limit their exposure and chances to one of 6 BCS Bowls.

Again, compared to the MWC? Can you explain why you feel the MWC will have more exposure and better chances at a BCS bowls? Are you saying that the MWC will get more teams in BCS bowls over the next 10 years than the Big East will?

There you go ugly, you can answer these straight up, OR you can do what you usually do and respond with some dribble about silver prices and potato crops. But don't say I didn't give you a chance to man up for once.

BSU4342....Thanks for your honest reply and here is

mine....

First, look down the road alittle. Boise State has gross revenues of around $29M with a budget of around $33M....thus $4M is coming from somewhere....probably the school and who cares because Boise State Football makes alot for the college and the city of Boise....

Boise State Football is a staple income to Boise City....

but for Boise State to grow it needs to be in the $50M category, right along with 30+ other cfb schools....

1....Im not comparing tv revenue of mwc to big east....to me, Boise should have tried other conferences as did Utah and TCU....the old adage of 'its not what you make that counts, but it is what you keep'....so what if the tv revenue is $5M? What will it cost? Do you realize that the visitor fees of the Big East will also be much higher than the mwc? Do Business accounting....Id rather gross $190,000 and keep $85,000 than to gross $1M and then lose $100,000....you see, simple economics....

2....yes. The Big East will now be in a new system of ratings and the rankings of the top 4 teams....no more non aq thus better have a very good ooc schedule if you are to compete with the Big 4 conferences, plus the ACC....Boise State will never be another BCS #5 with a schedule of past....so win the blue, then win the conference, and hope you have a SOS and 12-0 to compete with the Big 4....Mark my Words, the Big East will never have an NC without having an OOC that has at least one game with SEC and one with Big 10 or Big 12....

3....it will. The Big East Commissionar wants a 7th BCS Big Bowl game....why? it is because even he can see the future of the new system....The Big East will have to compete with at least 3 other divisions, other than the main 4 +ACC, to get to one of the top 6 BCS Bowls....much harder than as a non-AQ....

Thanks,

Ugly

ugly, #1

"First, look down the road alittle. Boise State has gross revenues of around $29M with a budget of around $33M....thus $4M is coming from somewhere...."

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First off let's understand that you are talking about the entire athletic budget, not just football. Next let's look at your actual numbers, which are incorrect.

Here are the BSU AD numbers for fiscal year ending 06/30/2012

Total Revenue $31,051,495
Total Expenses $26,862,366

I'm not sure how this got into the conversation, but at least now you have the correct numbers

Yes, BSU4342....your facts that you have as reported are

usually correct....

but then the govt created 550,000 jobs last month too....

Yes, those are BSU budgets....

But Boise State is more than that....the BAA, Stadium Gates, donors, etc., all contribute to what is known as 'the other budget and revenues'....

you and I both fully know that it takes far more than $12M to operate the Boise State University Football franchise....

remember the audit?

Now I am not arguing about Boise States budget....I am saying it needs to be with the other main BCS schools and the tv revenues from the Big East wont suffice....Boise State needs about $20M more than now....

And your solution ugly

Is to stay in the MWC? correct?

I thought we all agreed the BE was pooched from the BCS...

supposedly meaningless toward a BCS title?

COME ON, kids, WHICH IS IT?

Muhammad Ali, or a third-grade black eye?

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BSU4342....Yes it was....and I say it was because

too late now....

Boise State in MWC with 2-3 good OOC games would have just as much revenue and chance as in the Big East....

Now I am curious if BSU will be stuck in the Big East....

In 2014, the 12 year BCS system will be implemented and probably not very much conference shuffling after that....

The MWC is weak this year, but it won't always be weak....

Look at the WAC....Imagine if Boise State and BYU were still in the WAC along with Utah State and LA Tech....

Anyway, Boise State made their move and they may be stuck with it for awhile ????