Idaho students say 'No' to 'Students Come First' in Secretary of State's mock election

Propositions 1, 2 and 3 were soundly defeated in voting by about 1,700 Idaho high school students last week, according to Secretary of State Ben Ysursa's office.

Results from the voluntary mock election were released Monday morning. Ysursa has conducted such mock elections in previous years.

Proposition 1 (unions) failed with 1,205 no votes and 467 yes votes, or 71 percent no.

Proposition 2 (merit pay) failed with 1,266 no votes and 420 yes votes, or 75 percent no.

Proposition 3 (laptops) failed with 1,363 no votes to 324 yes votes, or 80 percent no.

Students voted online last week, with teachers supervising the vote on school-owned computers. The mock election was open to any high school class, but teachers had to register their classes in order for students to participate.

The results show a far more negative view than the Idaho Statesman poll last month, which showed Proposition 1 trailing by 4 percentage points, Prop 2 ahead by 3 points and Prop 3 behind by 7 points.

The poll appears to have a left-wing slant, with Mitt Romney only leading Barack Obama 871 to 748, or 49 percent to 43 percent. Romney is likely to win around 70 percent of the statewide vote among actual voters. Libertarian Gary Johnson had 4.4 percent, Jill Stein of the Green Party 1.3 percent, former Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Johnson 1 percent and Constitution Party nominee Virgil Goode, 0.6 percent.

In the 1st Congressional District, GOP Rep. Raul Labrador led Democrat Jimmy Farris 50 percent to 31 percent, with Pro-Life at 9.6 percent and Libertarian Rob Oates at 9.5 percent.

In the 2nd Congressional District, GOP Rep. Mike Simpson led Democratic state Sen. Nicole LeFavour, 59 percent to 41 percent.

Turnout was considerably higher in the 1st District, which runs from Western Ada County west to Oregon and north to Canada, with 1,316 votes cast in the 1st District race. In the 2nd District, just 271 votes were cast.

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Mock elections yield mock results

Vote YES on Props 1, 2 & 3!!!

I prefer not to sell our

I prefer not to sell our wonderful high school students here in Idaho short. Then again, I'm not mocking their voting choices:)

Weirdest "left-wing slant" I ever did see

49% Romney to 43% Obama is a rightward slant, if we make believe that Romney is someone like who he has sometimes said he is.

Just because most voters in Idaho believe up is down and the earth is flat does not make a bias to reality "spherocentric," Dan.

But Romney is so square it actually works out that way.


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Thanks to the participants

in this exercise. I liken it to hearing from those closest to the professed intent of the laws. Many of these folks will be able to vote for "real" in the next election.

dig deeper

By school and region.

Far more interesting to see differences between Boise/Cenntenial and rural school.

Any poll that shows Mr. Pro-Life getting 9% of the vote has to be discounted to some degree.

Dan, I don't understand your "far more negative view" comment. How can any results show a 'far more negative view' or postive view?

And how does a poll have a left-wing slant when the right wing candidate is leading? Perhaps you mean the student poll is MORE left-wing than the adult poll...

Let's consider the source of the information for these students.
It makes PERFECT sense that in a high school govt class discussion being LED by a teacher, the information being presented is GOING TO LEFT SLANTED.

That Pro-Life cat has had a few years to gain name recognition.

Apparently you forgot about him.


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Students Get More Textbooks with Prop 3 -- and Save Money

Nobody is talking about the fact that Proposition 3 will bring a huge savings in textbook costs.

eTextbooks can be some 84.3% cheaper than the same printed textbooks. That $292 annual lease cost is discounted by at least $280 because you save some $70 per textbook by buying eTextbooks rather than printed textbooks. I used an average Algebra textbook for my example.

Schools have to buy textbooks for high school students because they change subjects and go to more advanced subjects every year. If they buy new eTextbooks each year, the total cost to a student for a laptop and four eTextbooks is $12 per year. If they buy new eTextbooks every other year, the total cost per year is $152.

These are not high costs, given students get a laptop, new textbooks, and access to all the online learning materials that go with the eTextbook. It also gives the teachers new material. SUPPORT PROPOSITION 3!

No. E-books have to be


E-books have to be repurchased far more frequently than texts. At best they would be a wash, and that doesn't include the cost of the computers themselves and the upkeep and tech support salaries.

And how do you suppose they

And how do you suppose they are going to view the etextbooks -- on a computer or laptop, a technical device! Get real!

And this is news, how? Yes,

And this is news, how? Yes, students with their teachers right there looking over their shoulder will ALWAYS vote what they really think. (sarcastic chuckle). How is any of this pertinent. What should really have been asked of the students is how they learn the best.......on the computer (LOL).

Yes, it is news

What the students think is worth knowing, even if their opinions are based on limited experience. This is supposed to be about them, after all.

Your suggestion that students will do what their teachers tell? expect? persuade? them to do is pretty funny. Must be a long time since you were in a classroom.

eTextbooks Don't Have to be Repurchased

To Chris208:

It is not true that eTextbooks need to be repurchased more often than their print counterparts.

The only reason school districts would do more purchasing would be to get all the updates. But that's up to the local school district. This is not something that must be done more than every 1-2 years.

In Idaho today, we have school districts who haven't purchased new textbooks for 10 years. Isn't it better to be able to afford to purchase textbooks more often?

Not if the subject hasn't changed since 1729.


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Not necessarily. If, for

Not necessarily. If, for example, a math book is still in good condition after 10 years I see no reason to replace it. Same goes for history and the sciences. If there's a change in a ten year period, it would be likely be minor enough for the teacher to go over in class or with a few photocopies. I think you're mistaken about the cost of Ebooks. Do you have a kindle? Those textbooks are almost as much as regular textbooks. If they have to be renewed every couple of years, even at a discount, they would be massively more expensive than textbooks, especially after the costs of the laptop leases and repairs/maintenance.

Unfortunately it's not up to the local school district to dictate the terms of how often the texts will be updated. They can be picky shoppers and find the best deal available but at the end of the day it's the vendors who decide.

It would be interesting to

It would be interesting to ask these same students a year from now after they have experienced some adult life how they would vote then.

Sinatra says, "That's Life"

Adult life?

Do mean attending a college class that requires an online component?
Or realizing the cost and time of a brick-n-mortar college class vs the cost of an online class for a bone-head required core class.
Or after they get a job and see how much they pay in taxes (assuming they earn lots of dough)?
Or after they go for a job interview and the hiring person asks them if they know how to a database program?

What part of "adult life" are you expecting to change their mind?

He's deceased, it's a recording.


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I didn't write it would

I didn't write it would change their mind but that it would be interesting to view their votes after being out in the "real" world.

Got a reading comprehension problem??

Yes, I am sure the massive

Yes, I am sure the massive perspective shift that happens from age 17 to age 18 will blow their minds. Another semester of high school and an entire summer will really teach them what being a grown up is all about.

Who wrote anything about a

Who wrote anything about a massive perspective shift? I wrote it would be interesting to determine if there was any change. And yes, students do change and mature when moving out of the high school environment. If they don't, sorry for them.

It wasn't much, just the moving out of the first crappy rental.

It was a breeze as I was already halfway out by age 16.


If you still print the same stuff everybody else gets from AP, Reuters and Yahoo! without subtantive local content beyond this, you are doomed to fail wanting money from me.