New photos posted on web of government trapper letting dog attack coyote in trap

Wildlife Services, the Department of Agriculture agency that controls and kills wildlife that create problems, suffered a major setback earlier this year when a newspaper series showed a pattern of waste and damage to ecosystems.

Now the agency that Idaho calls on to kill wolves and even cougars along the Boise River Greenbelt, faces new criticism. A story by Pulitzer-Prize-winning reporter Tom Knudsen of the Sacramento Bee has photos of an agent allowing his dog to savagely attack a coyote in a trap and other photos of animals in leghold traps.

Like my earlier stories this year of a trapper who posted a picture of himself posing with a live wolf in a trap the story and its pictures will make people who care about animals angry. It also brings new scrutiny to an agency that under the best of circumstances, faces challenges defending its mission.

Rocky or whomever, it's too late to save them...

CRUEL OR NOT. You can delete my posts over and over but all you've done is make a statement of fact and offered little in the way of a solution.

What do YOU want them to do? Do you have a solution to offer?

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And Your's

So whats your solution???
There are so many things going on that could be considered cruel or inhumane.
Can you not see clearly through the smoke?
If you want to see outrage then do like they did in the 70's and drive through town with your deer/elk head tied to the front of your truck.
Trapping is not a pretty sight. I've been there and done it and would never do it again because its just too cruel, I find more enjoyment out of watching beavers, otters, muskrats swim around and do their thing.
The world is a cruel place and I guess those who can't take it can get off at any point.
Kinda early to be hitting the bottle already, oh Oregon is in Pacific time zone.

Why do you ramble on? Not gonna fly in my cape and whup him.

Do you have anything better to do than sit on your butt typing acid love notes?

Pacific Time starts outside of Huntington at Harney County! Look it up. We share your time zone and for that matter, I'm a block away from I-84 and maybe a mile from the Idaho border.

Are you so lazy that you can't look it up on Google? DUMKOPF. Pregnant with a spanner.

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PATHETIC LOSER

I am noticing a pattern here, either your posting when half lit or posting when your sober??? which is it.
Never have had a kid and never will. Why add to the problem of too many people already. I am thinking you don't live in Oregon or the USA at all, maybe South Korea??? am I close.
So how much trapping have you done in your short lived life?? NONE
I bet your afraid to even venture out into the hills. After all there are lions, tigers and bears....oh my.

If you really want a date I heard Potato2 is available.

How many Craigslist victims are there on these boards?

I don't know, I don't care, scream at the mirror until you're oddly aroused and blow away, you electronic harridan.

You're never gonna get it, P2. Date yourself.

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More of a man then you

Comparing my husband to you is like....well there is no comparison. He doesn't stalk women, he doesn't drink and go on rants and try and beat down women. I guess your celebrating being single all your life. My husband has read your rants and says your batting for the other team. Is that true????

And you're a psychopath with ovaries, bent on haraszment.

I don't care about your husband or any other of your sniveling fits. You are insufferable and hopefully it will lead to an early coronary or something. Buzz off.

Self-flagged, not giving you the pleasure.

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your drinking will kill too

Facts are facts you are the one who started this childish little fight, but your not man enough to admit it. Your a know nothing and have nothing. Ya I know over in Oregon you can buy that 190 proof rot gut booze. But come on man lay off, am sure some where some one much love you or at least like you. I will let you have the fun of flagging this one. Wow flagging your own post, did you lick much lead paint as a baby??? Just do us all a favor and crawl off in a hole.

Everybody knows I'm diabetic and almost died of renal failure...

last July. Why would I drink any alcohol after 17 years?

Are you going to keep rambling on like a total imbecile?

You are a sick individual! Run for office!

Just following your lead

Hey is gay marriage legal there in Oregon or will you have to go to Washington???
Ya I almost died once too, but when I was sent the other direction and the devil rejected me for fear I would take over.
Your the one who started all this, none of your posts ever have anything to do with the topic at hand.
Or is it you have a learning disability??? I hope I didn't hurt your little feelers.

In the Bee, the agent denies the claims,

and took down the images.

The images are still up at:

http://www.strongbowairedales.com/bear.htm

what

I don't see pictures of a dog attacking coyote.
I see dog that has come up to the trap with the trapper.
While the act of attacking dogs happens, those photos don't show it.

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If you're training a dog, it is good to let the dog see what he is after- a good wiff, some doggy excitement and some CONTROL of the dog NOT to attack the game. Or to attack it and kill it. That's what they do. That's why they are called animals.

The animal wackos overreact.
That's why there are cat-ladies.

You are conveniently ignoring the cat picture.

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kitty?

The bobcat picture?
Same thing as above.
There is a raccoon picture there too.
Same thing as above.

It's easy to find picture of coyotes killing housecats.
How about that cruelty?
Life is tough- especially if you are a coyote.

I know! I saw that film on The Wonderful World of Disney once.

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Try the second picture, of TWO dogs

attacking the coyote.

http://missoulanews.bigskypress.com/IndyBlog/archives/2012/11/02/wyoming-coyote-trapper-defends-graphic-photos

there ya go

Much better pictures.

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Why the uproar?

Do people think this doesn't happen?
As if it didn't happen last year?

Animal & child abuse happens EVERY DAY. No one gets alarmed to stop it.

Put a photo of it, or better a video of it, online and it goes viral. Then every person on the Web suddenly wants to tar-and-feather the perpetrator.

And you think this is terrible?
But Syria's government has killed over 30,000 of it own PEOPLE and the response from the US is, "We'll wait and see what happens".

Got priorities?

Huh? There is a war in Syria, so it is okay to torture animals?

Try again.

Two spanner pregnancies.

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There are cat men too (me) but Riding Hoods attack us.

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Too stupid to live

The votes just were tallied up and you lost. Say what you want about me, I will no longer flag you because your not worth the time. Your just an old idiot who should point his wheel chair in the corner and never come out.
Your such an arse.

JUST SAY NO

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I want nothing from you

your an old alcoholic and I want nothing to do with you. You are stupid and have no logic or sense.
Hey your oxygen bottle is getting low and your making no sense. Just go away moron. You've just been punked.
Bye bye and go die.

I believe that was wanting something right there, bitter Java.

Dear cat food reject screaming ex-landlord, You'll have to come and get it, I won't be subserviant.

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Been smokin much

Oh ya over in Oregon they have that medical pot, did you run out??? is that why you make no sense???
You get stoned and then try and type a response and end up in the middle because you got the munchies and forgot where you left off.
You should consider leading a good healthy life style like me. Oh wait your power chair prevents that. Been hacked lately???

Are you taking notes, Rocky? Will a paywall really end this?

THIS crap is killing your paycheck...get hired on at IdahoPTV, where you show up more frequently, and leave this sinking paper and all the freaks that bay here, before it's too late and all you can do is retreat to Montana.

Although you DO love Montana, it wouldn't kill you either.

But don't just sit there like a Harlequin in a gas chamber.

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You have a guy who lets,

perhaps encourages, his dog attack animals while they are confined to traps.

That is torture by any humane definition of the word.

Once it's in that trap it's pretty much done for anyway...

are you guys dumb on purpose or accidental trolls?

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You can see many of the

You can see many of the photos here: http://missoulanews.bigskypress.com/IndyBlog/archives/2012/11/02/wyoming-coyote-trapper-defends-graphic-photos

Those pics make the dog look like a poser to me.

Maybe it's a hunting dog with the birds. The cruelty pictured is the capturing of images where a quick dispatch would be more humane. The rifle is a poser too.

I would be ashamed to post those leghold trap pics in order to sell pups.

Please Rocky, go easy. You're giving Red a heart attack. Vile.

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Oh no your up past your bedtime

Did you run out of MD20/20, better run to the store and buy another bottle because it closes. Your a pathetic old boozer. Hey there in Oregon you can buy a bottle of 190 proof, that will put you in your grave quicker then we can say amen. Bye bye loser.

Why don't you just say what you really feel?

My mama always told me to be nice to the special needs people and you clearly are a special needs person.
I have clearly upset you and hurt your feelings and I didn't even have to get nasty. Once a mama's boy always a mama's boy, bet you got teased alot in school. You have a great Sunday my little special needs boy.

Troll

I am almost glad I won't be visiting here soon - sure tired of you stalking FO and typing slander. You are off topic and continue spewing crap that no one wants to read.

Flagged.

your no better mule

I've seen you spew enough crap also, so your just as guilty as FO and if you care to do the research, which you won't, he was the one who started on me. All you guys do is spread hate and discontent. Have me banned I don't give a rat's arse. A bunch of redneck hillbillies.

RedRidingHood....Ugly is a redneck and a

hillbilly....

What is wrong with that?

Do you want Americans as 100% Democrat Clones?

Your party won, so as good sheep, follow your shepherd....

Sorry

I wrote in Ted Nugent for president. I follow no one. I believe in no god. By the way I love your username. I think I've seen you some where before.

RedRiding....Ted? How come not....

Charles Heston???? Now that would make a hillbilly hooowwwlllll !!!!

albeit....I do like 'Cat Scratch Fever'....

You've seen Ugly before? Were you the one that bailed me out of jail in 1979? If so, sorry about the Led Zepplin Hair with the Bee Gees pants....but thanks anyway....

Yes I am a Republican, but starting to lean far more Independent and libertarian these days....I trust no-one either, other than the Lord above....

On FO, we have crossed paths in Ontario....

Red won't pay to play either and is just venting.

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We will miss you Mule and we will all miss each other-most of us

It will be another cold winter, whether it snows or not.

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PS SacBee is just another place to flag more.

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FO....

if your current finances allows you not to pay for the new Statesman online blog and newspaper, let ugly know....

I will be willing to pay your fee for one year....

Once a Chuckar; always a Chuckar !!!!

The Men in Orange rules !!!!

I remain anon to posters and need to find my insulin pen needles

...a lot worse, can't locate the new box and can't take my insulin until I do.

My house isn't the cluttered mess it was before I was in the hospital but it's still needing work and I'm chasing the snow all by myself. Nobody gives a crap and my mom had to put grandma in a home.

All the crap happens at once, doesn't it?

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If you believe

There is a god then your dumber then your responses on here. Only the weak and powerless believe in god. When you die, thats it your dead, 6 feet under the ground. There are plenty of more welfare parents filling the shoes you once wore.

I still don't see you unhappy and wanting to intersect a bus...

So you believe in something. Honestly...you believe in getting an ulcer, I guess.

Nobody will ever believe or follow a bitter person without an agenda. See: Hitler, Jim Jones, name your poison. Nobody will listen to you because you offer no alternatives. You're only a troll. When this goes you will have no power base and will have to find another...one that won't ban you quickly.

You have it pretty good here and you know it.

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RedRidingHood....You saved me from the

gutters of society....you provided a light in 1979....

The Rainbow has its colors, but its chase is an endless dream....All shades are my favorite, I look at them all....purple now, blue later....thanks for the deliverance....

Not being rude

Not saying your ugly, but what else do you see happening here in the US???
I keep thinking that I need to be more prepared and people just laugh at me. Whats your insight? If you don't mind sharing.

RedRidingHood....I posted on this and it went to the

editor as SPAM, so it wont make it....

I will repost it later....

Ok

Thank you

RedRidingHood....

The economic and fiscal meltdown has been going on for awhile and will continue until total collapse of our system. It is not too far away, but when is anyones guess.

My advice is to start slow and start reading about these problems so that you will make informed decisions that fits you and your family. There are plenty of excellent articles on the internet about the economic collapse and also home preparedness....there are kooks out there too, so shift the good from the bad.

My advice is start slow and dont do things from fear or from panick. For example, I will tell you what I have started to do.

Ugly's list:

1. Get my debt down
2. Buy some, not alot, of non dollar stuff such as silver
3. Every October I fill my garage freezer full of local beef, local corn, and peas.
4. We have started a food storage down stairs.

Those are relatively easy starters. On food storage, dont buy stuff like cake mix. Make sure it is items you will eat. I have campbells chicken noodle soup and vegetable soup. We also have dried beans, rice, powdered milk, and several other items.

Start slow and purchase wisely. And, keep reading. Hope that helps some?