VanderSloot 'not very enamored' with Prop 3, Idaho's laptop, online mandate

Melaleuca CEO Frank VanderSloot has spent more than $200,000 to back his friend Tom Luna's education reforms and promises to do more after news that the National Education Association gave more than $1 million to opponents.

But VanderSloot says he's ambivalent about Proposition 3, which mandates two online classes for graduation and would put a laptop in the hands of every Idaho high school student.

"I'm not very enamored with Prop 3," VanderSloot told me Thursday. "I never have been."

VanderSloot said he enthusiastically supports Propositions 1 and 2, which restrict union bargaining rights; end continuing contracts, or tenure, for teachers; and establish bonuses for about 80 percent of Idaho teachers.

But the technology mandate -- which has been the focus of the campaign seeking to overturn Superintendent of Public Instruction Luna's 2011 laws -- leaves VanderSloot cold.

"When push comes to shove, I'll probably vote for Prop 3," VanderSloot said, adding that he doesn't think the mandates are necessary. "Technology is going to come, one way or another."

If Prop 3 fails and the technology mandates repealed, VanderSloot said he's confident the Legislature would rework the idea. "It can be voted on again in the next legislative session. It can be dealt with, evaluated, reconstructed, whatever."

The timing for Proposition 1, however, is urgent, VanderSloot said. "We won't get that again in the next decade, and Prop 2, not either."

VanderSloot draws from his own experience with 14 children in speaking with passion about making it easier to fire teachers. "There are some really bad teachers. I've had children who've been impacted for life because of (bad teachers); just a couple. If we run into a couple, there must be a lot out there."

He also shared a great bit of inside baseball regarding a $100,000 check he wrote for the "yes" campaign as he and Luna headed to a fundraiser during the Republican National Convention in Tampa in August. In a story on Tuesday, I wrote about that contribution, suggesting it may have been some of the $200,000 contributed to Education Voters for Idaho, which says its contributors are secret.

VanderSloot said he hasn't contributed to any groups seeking to keep donations in the dark. "I have not given anything undisclosed to anybody," he said. "Either we've spent it directly or we've given to disclosable" groups.

VanderSloot said he wrote a $100,000 check to Luna in a cab.

"I trust Tom Luna," VanderSloot said. "I wrote it to whoever he told me to write it to. We were going to the event. I wrote the check in the cab on the way over. I said, 'Who do I make it out to?' He told me who."

Later, Luna suggested apportioning the money differently, VanderSloot said, and the pair agreed. "It'd be better if we had some here, some here and some here," VanderSloot said.

Sunshine reports filed this week show that Melaleuca gave $30,000 to the Idaho Federation of Republican Women on Sept. 12 and $80,000 more on Sept. 17. In July, he gave $50,000 to YES for Idaho Education, the lead proponent of the propositions.

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I admit...

...to being stumped.

Who gives a rat's patootie about anything VanderSloot says?

Really. That's not a rhetorical question.

Signed,
Angie Tucker
(reasonably intelligent Idaho native)

Money

equals Power, equals Political influence. Pay attention.

obviously you care, or would not have responded.

Ambivalence is hard to claim, when you used a fairly passionate reply to indicate your disdain.

Try not to be so two-faced next time.

Angie, Angie

Let me whisper in your ear.
Angie, Angie, where will it lead us from here?

LOVE, THE ROLLING STONES

With no loving in our souls, and no

money just our coats....

you cant say we're satisfied....

Now you reminded me of Donna Pescow(?)

The series ANGIE. Saturday Night Fever on the bridge when that dammed kid falls off.

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sorry it is not a rhetorical question

the guy gives a ton of money to the causes he supports, money buys power. You should give a rat's patootie about what he says if what is says opposes what you think. It means the side that has him on it will have more money to battle with.

You mean

Like the Obama campaigns untraceable credit card from foreign countries and non US citizens? Guess not, the above contributions were legal as opposed to Obama's "untraceable" illegal contributions.

Oh you mean the Obama contributions Congress investigated?

And congress could find no illegalities?
Those contributions??

No,

this new Obama scam.

"President Barack Obama’s campaign officials may have violated the Federal Election Campaign Act, which makes it illegal to knowingly solicit donations from foreigners by aggressively sending fundraising e-mails to foreign nationals. The solicitations direct to the campaign’s official donation page that does not implement proper security measures to prevent foreigners from making campaign contributions.'

and this one,

"the Obama.com website is not owned by the president’s campaign but rather by Obama bundler Robert Roche, a U.S. citizen living in Shanghai, China. Roche is the chairman of a Chinese infomercial company, Acorn International, with ties to state-controlled banks that allow it to “gain revenue through credit card transactions with Chinese banks.”

Actually

That last one about Obama.com is patently untrue. The story about Robert Roche owning it has only ever appeared on conspiracy websites. There's no trace of it on any of reputable site like the AP or Reuters. A search on Foxnews.com similarly turns up nothing. You'd think Fox would carry it if anyone would and even they won't touch it.

A quick Arin WHOIS search shows that Obama.com is held by a company located in Scottsdale Arizona. Running an nslookup on www.obama.com gives us the IP which we can trace to a server in, or near, Poway California. The server's ISP is Cox Communications.

The story about the GAI investigating Obama.com that's usually tied to the whole Robert Roche is actually a study done by the GAI which found that BOTH presidential campaign websites were susceptible of being used for fraudulent donations. My guess is that this also ties into the first part of your post but I'm not going to spend time on it.

There's no credible indication that Obama.com is owned by anyone in China at all.

If you dig further you'll see that Robert Roche owns Acorn International Inc which is a direct marketing company in China. They sell products through infomercials in China. Acorn International is based in Changhai. Mr Roche is also a board member of Oak Lawn Marketing which is pretty much a direct seller in Japan. Roche was appointed by Obama as a member of the Advisory Committee for Trade Policy due, in large part, to his extensive familiarity with doing business in various Asian countries. But again, we find no indication at all that he owns, operates or has anything at all to do with Obama.com

Seems I touched a nerve.

We? You have a mouse in your pocket? "But again, we find no indication at all that he owns, operates or has anything at all to do with Obama.com"

Seems you answered your own question. "If you dig further you'll see that Robert Roche owns Acorn International Inc which is a direct marketing company in China. They sell products through infomercials in China. Acorn International is based in Changhai. Mr Roche is also a board member of Oak Lawn Marketing which is pretty much a direct seller in Japan. Roche was appointed by Obama as a member of the Advisory Committee for Trade Policy due, in large part, to his extensive familiarity with doing business in various Asian countries"

AP and Reuters most outstanding Journalistic feature is their use of "The Spike". They can't even figure out what kind of scholarship your hero attended Occidental on. And Barry Sotero-Obama ain't sayin'.

This is only

one disastrous consequence of the Citizens United ruling. Sucks, don't it.

Check out SuperPacs.

Our children are going to pay

for the actions of these power hungry men. They don't give a darn about how our children are affected by their actions. If Luna stays in office and these propositions pass, our children will remain behind the rest of the country. Is that what Idaho parents want? Children decades behind the rest, who can't get into the universities of their choice because their early education failed them?

So you're saying. . .

So you're saying Idaho kids are already behind the rest of the nation. I quote: "If Luna stays in office and these propositions pass, our children will remain behind the rest of the country". Nice going einstein, way to defend the opposition by admitting Idaho is lacking. Though, to give you credit, you're right. Idaho has a ranking of 47th in the nation, in other words, that's near bottom. With a ranking like that, one should seriously wonder why no one from the opposition is stating this fact. Can one conclude that it's because it shows how the current is broken and isn't working, which is bad news for the unions. Oh well, let's forget about it because people like broncofan79, and others like their kids being hit with a ranking of 47. I guess you really should worry about your kids not getting into the college of choice with that type of a ranking. The only ones holding our kids back are the ones who enjoy the current system, despite being ranked 47th in the nation. (http://www.ktvb.com/news/education-reform/Idaho-ranks-47th-in-education-according-to-national-survey-137323843.html)

Idaho not 47th.

That's 47th in per pupil spending. Before the last election, Idaho was 47th in spending, but 34th in achievement. Maybe the teachers were doing something right, before Luna decided they were just a bunch of union thugs.

So, what you're saying is.....

1. You don't support 1/3 of the legislation.
"I'm not very enamored with Prop 3," VanderSloot told me Thursday. "I never have been."

2. You don't believe that the legislature would make the same mistake of passing this faulty and misleading legislation again.
"We won't get that again in the next decade, and Prop 2, not either."

3. You base your narrow-minded, one-size-fits-all stereotyping of teachers on an experience with a couple of "bad ones" in one eastern Idaho school district. The whole state must have bad teachers, right.
"There are some really bad teachers. I've had children who've been impacted for life because of (bad teachers); just a couple. If we run into a couple, there must be a lot out there."

So, there a couple of really poor business people I've encountered. Idaho Business people, like Mr. VanderSloot, must all be corrupt and dishonest. Nice logic!

suspicious

Luna's laws are suspicious as is Vandersloot's support. For decades schools and teachers have said they can not afford to supply pencils, crayons, markers and paper for students. Suddenly they can afford to give them laptop computers?

That is One Guy Who Has Reservations. So What?

There are bigger issues - real ones that ought to seriously elevate the average Idahoans sphycter level.

After witnessing the Joe Biden meltdown last night I can't help but think we can't afford to let a socialist anywhere close to a classroom. These people actually believe crazy Joe did himself and his party good. Really. I am not kidding. These people are just beside themselves thinking this was some kind of victory for the socialists. Honest. I am not making this up. Go to MSNBC and watch how those people are just wetting themsleves about last night. Next, go to CNN and look at the viewer polls that the network took after the program. The dissonance is astounding. Now, imagine crazy Joe with access to the nuclear button. This guy is one heart beat away from being president and the socialists love him.

Meltdown?

Joe Biden is a real person. I only wish more politicians were as real.

All jerks are real persons

Biden is a jerk.

You seem to be the expert on that subject, have a degree?

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LOL

BTW, and real persons are jerks. Love it because Biden says it as it should be said. Calls 'em as he sees 'em. That is refreshing because -- why --- because he is speaking the truth.

Biden, poster boy for

Biden, poster boy for Proverbs 29:9.

I don't have a bible nearby and hardly expect you to.

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Perhaps , you

need to go to---- where you can find one.

I don't need to, you're the devil and already talk to me ;-ppp

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PS A rectangle is not a square, nor is JB.

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Socialist Luna to redistribute wealth via laptops to teens!

See how easy it is to misuse words?

"No his mind is not for rent, to any god or government." Neil Peart

Incorrect, because you forgot Bungling. He's a BS degree.

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What does this have to do with the article?

Biden isn't part of this issue.

He's a better issue.

The rest is a comic book.

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It's sad how good topics descend in Hades toot sweet.

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VanderSloot draws from his

VanderSloot draws from his own experience with 14 children in speaking with passion about making it easier to fire teachers. "There are some really bad teachers. I've had children who've been impacted for life because of (bad teachers); just a couple. If we run into a couple, there must be a lot out there."

Yet he backed a guy who has a On-line Degree in weights and measure to run Idaho education. Oh I forgot Tommy turned LDS !

I've dated more than a few...worked out fine.

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only because

Mr. Melaluca doesn't own a for profit education company, or shares in one....if he did..he would be all for it.