Big West, a potential answer for Boise State, will discuss membership next week

By Brian Murphy
bmurphy@idahostatesman.com

Boise State tried unsuccessfully to get its non-football programs in the California-based Big West last year. Now the Broncos might have to try again.

With the Western Athletic Conference — where most of Boise State's non-football teams are slated to play beginning in 2013 — in shambles, Boise State's eye could again turn to the Big West.

The Big West will have 10 teams in 2013, including Hawaii and San Diego State. ESPN's Andy Katz reported that the league will consider expansion, but is unlikely to make a big move which could be bad news for Boise State.

Big West Commissioner Dennis Farrell told the Idaho Statesman in an email that the league's Board of Directors (presidents and chancellors) will meet next week and "its schedule includes a more 'blue sky' discussion of membership that undoubtedly will encompass a review of everything that has happened nationally regarding conference re-alignment There is no specific proposal on the table at this meeting to consider expansion beyond the ten members."

• A day after Big East Commissioner John Marinatto resigned, there are some good stories about the state of the Big East. Boise State is scheduled to move its football program into the league in 2013.

From Pete Thamel of the New York Times, you get a sense of the odd situation the league finds itself in — it could fall apart or it could sign a league-saving television contract. All in the next few months.

Boise State is clearly rooting for the latter.

And from Kelly Whiteside and Steve Wieberg of USA Today, you get a sense that the other BCS AQ conferences feel they have created separation between the top five and the Big East.

Also from USA Today: Marinatto does not expect Boise State or San Diego State to leave the league.

"When those schools went through the process with us, they both independently hired television consultants because they knew and we knew that the (automatic qualifier) may not exist by the time the new (TV) contract rolled around," Marinatto told USA Today.

"Neither one of those schools made the decision to join the Big East specifically because we had an AQ. I think they saw the bigger picture and realized that our potential really was in television. We have 32 million households in our footprint; that's twice as much as the next conference in the country, which is the Pac-12."

I agree with Marinatto. As long as the television money is there — and all indications are that it will be — then I think Boise State is going to stick with the Big East.

• Here is a terrific recap of stories written about the Big East from the Sports Business Daily.

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It sounds like Boise State is going to be....

Nowhere Man in Nowhere Land....Prideth often before the Fall....

How come no direction?

We will see where it all ends?

Pride? thy name is Vandal

Really? Seriously?
Let's see. A program among the top 15 all time winning percentage and perennial top 25 and recent top 10 team wants to play at the highest level and that's pridefull. Ok, but EARNED. Also several other programs that win consistently.
Compared let's say to a .400ish all time winning percentage stuck 9 miles from a PAC 12 school
who would have the 3rd smallest Big Sky stadium program that follows the above around and still claims to be a DVD program.
Pride, thy name is Vandal.

Deflect

When all else fails - deflect.

Will you get over the elitist vapors thing you cliquey braggart?

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Re: Nowhere

Did you even read the article?

"32 million televisions in the Big East footprint".

I'm not seeing how BSU is in trouble.

truthseeker....here is the truth from

Ugly....

So what about 32 million 'potential' viewers?....Think about it. The East Coast has over 150 million potential viewers of any show on cable or direct tv....What makes you think that a large share will tune into Boise State?

The Big East is folding much like the WAC....look at the Big East for 2013....do you really think they are heading somewhere?

ugly

possibly because boise state is a contender for a bcs bowl every year, we are known for having an exciting football team, we win, we throw the football, we have a blue field, we have coach Petersen and the world loves us.

Ugly???

You must be depressed to be speaking in that manner. Hey, I got my BAA # and locked in my season ticket today!

PS - I also locked in my Vandal season tickets too! Aint it great!

sif60....no depression....just

thinking....

Season tickets! Sounds like alot of travel from Oregon to Idaho....Congrats!

UGLY

My BSU tickets go to my sons and I travel to Moscow...I keep hoping others would make the sacrifice to support the Vandals.

speculation

It only seems like there is no direction because because people are blogging "the sky is falling". We bloggers are sitting in the proverbial "cave" trying to make sense of the shadows on the wall, while coach Pete and the and the AD are out in the sunshine making the best decisions based on what is real.

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So you are

THAT GUY!

forgot to add Govt of Nigeria

Lol

You ain't a BARRISTER!

You ain't squat if it ain't in the name of Christ anyway.

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From what Pete Thamel

says, it looks like the ACC will have a strong say in the future of the Big East. If the ACC co-opts two teams (basically any time it wants to), and the Big 12 then takes two more from the Big East, that would leave the conference in a shambles. The 32 million TV households that Marinatto mentions won't exist after the conference has lost its' top seven schools--including the previous departures of Pitt, Syracuse, and West Virginia. Then what?

More negative B.S. from B.M.

A "story" based on COULD and MIGHT and the moron that is Andy Katz.

This couldn't be any less of an ACTUAL story. You know the type that USED to be printed in newspapers when newspaper stories were based on FACTS.....not COULD and MIGHT and MAYBE.

What a joke...

Drop your kids off at the Big West daycare while mom and paps work out in the Big East.

The collegiate model is dead amigos. Dead. I bump into Broncos who think the Big East is an awesome move and Vandals who'd rather play Sun Belt than Big Sky. Yet most of these same people agree that college athletics is losing its soul. Perhaps some of the cheese is slipping off of our crackers....

BSU is a MWC school. Idaho is a Big Sky school. These conferences want our schools. Why is it so complicated?

Money....

seems to complicate everything. Although its really pretty simple - either make more money or die.

Black Rock

you are a Debbie Downer on every subject.

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Galena....You got excellent points....

If Boise wants more monies, then a game with Texas in Texas could be worth $2M to the Broncos....stay in mwc and make it better and schedule more big-boy BCS games for the ooc and then whammo more monies from the gates and more tv revenues....

"

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Kinda reminds me of the .....

Fresno State model. Where was Fresno ranked last year/year before/year before? What did they do with all that money?

There's Ugly

The voice of nonsense.......

Exactly ...

Playing at Texas is no cupcake - bring on Tennessee- Martin. Boo Hoo nobody will play us.

There's that "one trick"

Smell again.....

I don't recall...

Texas ever giving us that offer. Do you honestly think Boise State would turn it down?

yep, 'cause we all know...

texas has been hanging out on campus to be first in line to schedule a game soon as we decide to invite them!

bsu4342....think about it....

What is so enticing about the Big East?

I keep hearing about this great extra $10M in tv and other revenues....so what?

If Broncos now gross say $26M, what big is it if they go to $36-$40M? Are not the Broncos a top-10 cfb powerhouse? should they not strive for what the other top tenners gross, such as $60M plus? That wont happen in the Big East....

The Big East will make the Broncos more 'gross' monies, but it will also become a deadend for them and will be their future nemesis....

Why do you believe the Big East is so great....look at the teams for 2013 in Big East....do you really think the aq will stay and tv ratings will increase? Just curious....

UGLY

I think you have a very valid point. However, just maybe BSU gets a Natty before the BIG seperation between the BIG 5 and the BIG EASY. Just think...maybe BSU getting a Natty would be the straw that broke the camels back. Isn't that sorta what happened when BYU won the Natty in 1984?

After that happened then we started hearing about TV schools vs the non TV schools. Same story and same outcome from almost 30 years ago.

sif60....

BYU is different in that they have a national following that is mostly member related....Notre Dame has its connections too....the problem with Boise is that not too many will root for Boise over Rutgers....Its kinda funny that Boise wants the Big East, but they dont want to severe ties with Fresno and Nevada....they want the Big East, but still some ties with the mwc....

My take is going to Big East, then go big on the OOC too....play east teams as well....

Ugly

The TV money will be between $5M-$8M, not $10m

BSU currently gets $1.5M

Look at it this way, BSU will be making BCS bowl every year, even if they don't go to a BCS bowl.

If the Big East is a dead end, then the MWC is a cliff.

Yes, I do believe the Big East will get a very good TV deal, my guess is in the $170M per year.

Have you looked at who will be in the Big East?have you compared them to the new MWC? You should.

A move back the MWC would cripple the football program and severally hurt the Olympic sports.

bsu4342....fair enough....you have made

your positive claims on the Big East many times....I guess time will tell....maybe you, Pete and AD, and many other Bronco fans are correct?

Ride that Big East horse into the ground

Tv money is very important. But for this ole BSU fan its the exposure for recruiting from playing 2 Tex, 2 Fla schools. Throw in 1 southern Cal school and also we really need northern Cal school like Fresno St.
Good recruits will only get better by playing those Tex, Fla and Cal schools.
Git er done.

iffiy - I respectfully disagree.....

you have described the Fresno State model - it got them nothing.

Tet

He's talking about the Big East.

It's a disease so I don't give a crap.

I don't care about all the slimy money or who makes us more. The worm have already bored into some brains. Selfish addicted moneygrubbers with no morals.

It's a game called football. Play or watch and stop driving an armored minivan.

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It's a disease so I don't give a crap.

I don't care about all the slimy money or who makes us more. The worms have already bored into some brains. Selfish addicted moneygrubbers with no morals.

It's a game called football. Play or watch and stop driving an armored minivan.

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I respectfully disagree---

Tet, guess I should have stated I was referring that I liked the Big East (west) somewhere in that comment about recruiting. Agree that BSU cant just play 1 and done road trips with big name schools. It will only lead to playing schools like Tenn Martin at home which long term will not help attendence with a new expanded staduim.

Back To The WAC

No way. The BIG WEST is a better place to be in if they allow it. Stay in the MWAC? which now stands for Merged WAC? You have to be kidding? Every true blue Bronco here wanted to get away from the wimps of the WAC that held us back, in particular San Jose St, Utah St and Idaho. Now two of those team are going to bring down the MWAC.
So many people here do not want to move forward. You would rather see a BSU blowout of Las Vegas, San Jose St. or Idaho instead of a competitive game against the Bearcats, Rutgers, Houston or Louisville.

Sorry, but you can't.

You did not say, "Mother, may I" first.

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Who wants a school

whose attitude toward sports is "if it ain't football, it ain't s**t".

Isn't that exactly what the MWC is doing?

The MWC isn't interested in keeping BSU (who they just invited) unless BSU chooses to keep it's football program there. So, what does that attitude say? Doesn't it say that they're only really interested in football and not any other s**t sports?

You mean like the entire state of Texas?

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Looking for answers with no questions ever offered?

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