What are your camping pet peeves?

We're working on a camping etiquette story for the May 17 Camping Guide. Aside from basic campground rules, what should people avoid doing when they're camping in order to be good neighbors. Or more specifically, what do others do that ticks you off?

why

Why get upset about anything?
You're camping. Having a good time.
That's like having a million dollars and complaining that interest rates are so low.

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okay, it is other campers being noisy in the morning! By early that is anything between 6am and 10am.

If it's too early to drink, it's too early to be noisy.

too early to drink?

It is never too early to drink.

Trash

Trash left in campfire rings. Foil does not burn, people! Neither do tin cans!

People that burn plastic trash in campfires. Just pack it out, it's not that heavy!

Proximity

Camping to close at unimproved sites. At least come and ask if it's ok.

Having to listen to 14 hours of ATV revving engine noise

as junior 1, 2, and 3 ride all over the campsite while parents are getting blitzed. Having to smell exhaust for those same 14 hours as junior 1, 2, and 3 burn fuel and help fund islamic terrorist by participating in gasoline powered recreational activities.

Dogs, rafters and tourists

In improved campgrounds along rivers:

1. Letting dogs run without leashes; I don't want your dog sh*****g or peeing in my site, nor do I want it sniffing aroud in our camp food. Leave fido at home or keep it on a leash -- in your campsite. Oh, and keep the stupid dog quiet; I don't go camping to listen to your dog bark.

2. Rafters that think any wide spot along the river is theirs to pack in/pack out, even if it is right through the middle of your campsite. You want to use it for portage? Reserve and pay for your own site. Otherwise, float on down the river to an approved launch/takeout site.

3. Tourists that wander through your campsite while they're stopping for a potty break so they can enjoy the river views. What about that "Camping Use Only Past This Sign" don't you understand? I'm not looking for random drop by visitors while I'm enjoying the campsite I paid for.

Firearms

Campers that fire off their elk rifles IN the campground. It's illegal, EXTREMELY rude, dangerous and gives hunters a bad reputation.

No WONDER I'm not camping!

Besides the burial sounds and cop cars would sound like TV where I'm at.

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"foreignoregonian" is not anonymous

It is my identity and my philosophy

Would you prefer everyone to be called 'Poster'?

All of the above!

Generators and lights on all night.
Loud music and yelling late at night.
ATVs racing around (making new roads.)
Dogs running loose (peeing on tents!)
Gunfire (usually alcohol fueled.)
Campfires unattended or in unsafe locations.
Leaving trash in campfire rings.
Cigarette butts.
Camping way to close to other camps.
Camping on road easements.

We see it every summer and don't even have to leave the house.

All those things listed above

Plus - any electrically-generated sounds. Radio, TV, etc. Use your headphones! Loud partying - regardless of time of day. I did not travel all the way to listen to your revelry or your electronic entertainment. I can do that at home - for free.

Please disable your car alarm. No one is going to come to your vehicle's rescue anyway. We will just ignore it the same as we do in town (and probably you will too) while mostly being annoyed by it and you - especially after the second false-alarm.

Those of you who are also fishing...your bait containers and fishing line are not biodegradable. (I know - if you need to be told, you probably don't care)

Roger - how about things we *do* like to see and hear from our camping neighbors? Things like...

Campers singing (maybe accompanied by guitar, harmonica, etc.)
Children laughing.
Adults laughing (not the continuous party laugh)
Families or groups teaching their kids to respect other people and nature.
Obedient and non-aggressive dogs that only bark when provoked.
A clean and orderly camp.

Why don't you just shoot everybody else before bed? SARC

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"foreignoregonian" is not anonymous

It is my identity and my philosophy

Would you prefer everyone to be called 'Poster'?

Bear country

Not obeying basic rules when in bear country.

Keep your dishes clean.
Put your trash in the bear proof containers.
Put your cooler back in the car.

I don't want to be running a bear out of your camp at 2 in the morning while you cower screaming in your tent. Those signs are there for a reason.

True story. Happened at Warm Lake. Still a little hacked off about it.

Other than that, just be a good neighbor. The kind that the people around you will hope to run into again sometime in town.

Truth is hard to come by

Good point PJ

A fed bear usually ends up a dead bear.

A bare Fed is a big Boo-boo!

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It you go online and yell FAQ YOU TOO

You are cut off at the well son.

Nosy neighbors.

I am there to camp with my family. If I ask you to join us, you are welcome to do so. The fact that I am camping does not give you an open invitation to stagger over and comment on my food selections, child rearing techniques or well behaved pet.

My pet peeves

1. People who hang a flat screen on the side of their 45' fith wheel and proceed to have "movie night" at the campground.

2. Generators, the quiet ones, are not so bad as long as they are used during non-quiet hours. After quiet hours, turn off the generator please.

3. I bring my two dogs but I do follow the rules and have them under restraint the whole time. It has taken me years to perfect the camping tie out system for them. I would really appreciate others do the same. Also don't brings dogs if they bark at everything that moves.

4. Uncontrolled kids. Nuff said.

5. Off road vehicle use in the campground.

6. People who don't share food that smells/tastes really good. If you are a very good cook, bring enough for everyone! Just kidding,... not really.

Honestly, I have never really had a bad day camping in my life.

Moochers

People who come unprepared and ask to borrow basic things with no thought of sharing in return. Yes I have a can opener, paper plates, matches, extra charcoal, Coleman fuel, lantern mantles, an axe, toilet paper, rain gear, extra food, etc etc. And you are more than welcome to any of them. We all forget stuff from time to time and real campers know how to improvise or do without. If you need my stuff, help yourself, but at least offer me a beer or a s'more or something that tells me you're not clueless. I will probably politely say no thanks, but at least you've offered.

Camp where nobody else wants to...

sbove 10,000 feet.

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It you go online and yell FAQ YOU TOO

You are cut off at the well son.

Garbage left behind

Cigarette butts, beer cans, toilet paper grenades. The toilet paper "flowers" are the worst. Please people, take care of your waste in an acceptable fashion; don't leave your land mines all over the place. Bury it or pack it out!

Camping

If you are going to try and cut wood, buy a real axe and not a small hatchet that is useless. Not only are they to small to accomplish anything with, they provide a great way to hurt yourself or family. If you let kids use them, you might want to plan a trip to the emergency room into your weekend. Yes, I take both a chain saw and axe for weekend firewood getting while camping and no, you don't need to ask if you can have some wood for a fire. Keep your kids and dogs out of my camp unless asked to join us, use your ATV's and motorcycles to enter/leave the campground, not use the campground area as your personal riding/racing area. When you leave, clean up your campside and "put out your campfire".