Idaho County Sheriff''s photo with shovel angers wolf advocates

Idaho County Sheriff Doug Giddings told the Lewiston Tribune in March 2011 when the photo was first posted that the SSS in the raffle for a .308 rifle was not shoot, shovel and shut up, as the traditional answer to solving the wolf problem is portrayed in the rural West.

Instead, he said it stands for "safety, security and survival," the Associated Press reported. So now this picture (from left, Giddings with shovel, rifle winner Norm Sonnen of Greencreek, and Undersheriff Jim Gorges), which they posted on Facebook, has gone viral. Wolf advocates aren't getting the joke.

"Idaho County seems to be lawless if you are a friend of wolves," said Lynne Stone, a wolf advocate from Hailey.

Sheriff Giddings returned my call April 25 because, he said, he had phone issues. His point to me is that they don't need to make the same point about federal limitations this year because people can go out and get license to shoot wolves now that they are off the endangered species list.

The drawing raised $13,000 for eight elementary schools, four high schools and the Idaho County food bank. But with the star power wolves have, I've got to believe he might have raised more if he could find a way to get wolf lovers involved instead of turned off.

wolf sss

It appears

that the sheriff couldn't "shut up."

Wow.

The anti wolf crowd is their own worst enemy.

Hey Brown Matter

I think you are the pro wolf groups worst enemy.Try using intelligence for debate instead of knee jerk liberal rants.

GM does not jerk their knees!

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Joke

Joke? That doesn't look like a joke to me. Wolf advocates are in no mood for sicko jokes.

No Joke, Get Involved

Everyone has the right to kill two wolves each year. They were eliminated once and it can happen again.

To get the liberal wolf lovers involved

They should have auctioned off a vacuum and saline solution with the Planned non-Parenthood logo on them.

Did you all want the tortured wolf shoveled or shot?

Blow it up with nuclear charges, throw it to the sharks?

WHAT

DO

THEY

WANT???

Since I am certain none of them have microencephaly problems...

Go home, 4/20 was four days ago.

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who cares about the wolves?

It's the Grizzlies moving back into Idaho that has me nervous. Wolves don't attack humans, only in Hollywood.

I did not realize

Hollywood was in Alaska...

Heck Yeah!

They got a blizzard of snow

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What Ever

These idiots need to be removed from their positions. I'm sorry but I have to call BS on their explanation of SSS, then why is the bozo holding a shovel???? Lets start advocating poaching elk and deer too, I bet that would raise some hairs. So basically if you want to kill a wolf illegally then head to Boise County. Grizzlies only attack stupid people who are not bear aware. Oh but it already seems the anti wolf crowd does not have a problem with one of their own getting busted for poaching elk. Go figure.

Its Idaho County not Boise County

which is Grangeville area -- some vocal red neck mindset for decades unfortunately overshadow those intelligent citizens.

Grizzly attacks

"Grizzlies only attack stupid people who are not bear aware."

I have done a fair amount of reading on the subject. Grizzlies also attack experienced people are are very aware. Where did you find your information?

Truth is hard to come by

Does it really matter

My bad, but it could be Ada county, Boise county, Idaho county or most any other county in Idaho.

It's a nice looking shovel. Don't you dig?

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Smirks

It's the smirky grins which put it over the top. Why are people posing for photos like this? People who carry guns (especially for a living) should have at least a double digit IQ with no decimals. Wolves will be back on the list before you know it.

So?

Let the freak-left be angry.

Who the crap says they're LEFT?

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Let me educate you about LEFT and RIGHT!

If they'll date you then they are RIGHT

If the won't they are SOOO LEFT

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Please

If those people you claim were experienced were attacked then they were hardly experts. I have had many run-in's with grizzly bears and wolves for that matter and have never been attacked. Look at it this way, the grizzly bear is mother natures way of cleaning out the gene pool. I have found that these so called people that protect & serve are some of the biggest outlaws around. Yes wolves will be re-listed soon, but do you think idiots like these two will enforce the law??? NO and neither will IDFG.
How would those anti wolf people like it if pro wolf people were encouraging other's to go out and poach trophy bull elk????

Really?

Oh-they aren't going to be re-listed for a while, because it's really going to be difficult to bring them (wolves)down to the level that would require it...(they reproduce like dogs) WAIT!! They are dogs...or at least the precursor to dogs...
As far as Grizzly bears go, they do attack humans, even those sleeping in tents, so bear-aware is a good thing, but choosing to camp in their territory is at your own risk...(get spray & HANG that food up!)
And I'm sure that most "wolf advocates" would never encourage the poaching of bull elk, (though I did read a thread on the "wolf Army" on FB that suggested they all go out & shoot the elk, and moo-cows, so there would no longer be a need for hunting or ranching...) they generally only approve of killing humans, as we are (in their words) "the destroyers of the earth"...
Putting an animal, whether it be a bear, wolf, or even an elk above human life is not acceptable...

What about your own kind?

Sorry but the anti wolf side already has two poachers among them that got busted, Tony Mayer and Rex Rammell. But I suppose thats ok because they were poaching the elk to keep the wolves from having it.

But wolves can't make JERKY

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Classic Rock

"So now this picture ,from left, of the sheriff with shovel, the rifle winner,Norm Sonnen, of Greencreek and Giddings undersheriff Jim Gorges, which they posted on Facebook, has gone viral."

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Rocky, you may need to lose weight so your fingers are not too fat to type. Or you could just use a spell check.

Treadwell

seems to have been experienced.

So tell me...have you really been experienced?

If so I guess we have to say let me stand next to your campfire?

God I know, what a rut

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This story is from March 2011!

When the article says the Lewiston Tribune spoke with Sheriff Giddings in March, it was March 2011! On the internet one can apparently recycle an old controversy from a year ago like it was yesterday...

Top Notch

Good catch agwilliam70.
It has nothing to do with the Internet. It has all to do with The Rock!

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Top Notch AWARD WINNING reporting Rock!

Rock says, "He did not return my call". LMAO. You're feelings must be hurt.
"hey, about that drawing over a year ago, can we talk?

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Rock, here's another HOT news tip for you:
Idaho County deputy kills young wolf. June 2011.
Go get it boy!

Oh Really

How many times did you see Treadwell packing bear spray??? NONE
Anyone with any sort of common sense knows you don't let a WILD ANIMAL that close. Treadwell was just too stupid to live. Its people like Tim Treadwell that get other's hurt or worse. Treadwell violated the bear's personal space way too many times and in the end it was a tragic loss that his girlfriend who lost her life.
I think if I were the federal government I would keep a close eye on these two Idaho County guys, it does not take a rocket scientist to clearly see they advocating "shoot,shovel and shut up". Can you say ethic's investigation.

Vote Greg Smith for Sheriff

I can't question Giddings motivation, but his judgement is lacking. He gave a commendation to a Deputy for a drug buy/bust which was botched. I have read the reports. He got rid of all his experienced Detectives. His deputies take hours to respond. The department does not investigate property crimes, but only takes reports. On and On and on.

Idaho Continues to Thumb it's nose at wolf recovery.

It is really sad that so many here really don't care about humane treatment for wildlife. I am an advocate of the Wolf and am constantly amazed at the misinformation and sheer blind ignorance that seems to fuel most of the anti wolf opinions - at least as far as comments go. The John Bransford incident needs to be addressed ( the investigation is ongoing by some of the environmental groups)and this type of needless show boating needs to be stopped. From what I read above, Greg Smith has a long list of misdeeds during his reign as the current Sheriff. This just puts the icing on the cake so to speak.

Wolf Recovery in your back yard?

I just don't get why folks think wolves belong living around people. They become habituated and dangerous. Not good for the wolves. They belong in the wilderness. However all the prime wilderness habitat is saturated, yet people want still more wolves. Its not good for wolves to be living in marginal habitat.

People are having problems with habituated wolves wherever their population expands beyond the "wilderness". I'm also tired of misinformation - from both sides of the debate.

Eight wolves killed in city of Ironwood, Michigan

http://www.outdoornews.com/April-2012/Eight-wolves-killed-in-city-of-Ironwood/

And it wasn't a drive-by in a Toyota Corolla

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Bogus Link

This link is bogus

It might be incorrect but not BOGUS

THIS LINK IS BOGUS

http://www.bogusbasin.org/

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numbers

In the Eastern wolf recovery area there are over 4,400 wolves. There are bound to be wolves as well as deer, bear and any other wildlife that has been displaced by humans, so what is your point here???
Am sure they are over run with raccoon's too.

Old News...

And the reason for this story NOW??
Perhaps the author is attempting to keep this controversy going, now that wolf season (in most areas) is closed...
AND, if you did not get a return call till THIS year...maybe a bit of follow-up LAST year would have made more sense...

Just sayin....

Wolves killed in Michigan

That never happened fool

Shut up Weisberg!

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