Idaho Sen. Chuck Winder makes 'Doonesbury' website Friday, for controversial 'rape' comment

Winder, the sponsor of the stalled ultrasound mandate measure, Senate Bill 1387, is quoted in the comic strip's online "Say What?" feature.

Winder's statement in Monday's Senate debate on the bill has made him an international object of derision.

"I would hope that when a woman goes in to a physician with a rape issue, that physician will indeed ask her about perhaps her marriage, was this pregnancy caused by normal relations in a marriage or was it truly caused by a rape."

I spoke with Winder, R-Boise, on Thursday, who is chagrined by all the attention and saddened that it may have contributed to the sidetracking of his bill in the House. He says he only meant that a woman might choose to continue her pregnancy if she knew the child's father were her husband, not a rapist.

Doonesbury focused on the Texas ultrasound mandate last week, with images graphic enough that some papers pulled the comic. Reaction from Statesman readers, however, was positive, as Editorial Page Editor Kevin Richert reports.

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How does it feel, Chuck

To be the Fool on the Hill?

That's what I meant

Ya can't fix stupid.

I don't do comics or Richert.

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Winder's 15 minutes of fame

should be just about over now. If he was trying to draw attention to himself, perhaps for a future U.S. Senate bid, he did a great job!

Backtrack all you want, Winder

but you really blew it. I wonder if it's an honor to make the Doonesbury website. Nah, didn't really think so. Just made Idaho look like a real backwards state to the rest of the Nation, like so many other of our Politicians have.

I think

Mr. Winder did not mean it as awful as everyone is making it out and he did mean it to be that if a woman who was raped knew through DNA that the baby was her husbands that she would probably chose to keep it.
Rape is a terrible thing and Mr. Winder knows that and I am certain did not mean any woman any harm.
People are sensationalizing something that does not need to be.
I'm with Chuck on this one. Please stick to the real issue and give the man the benefit of the doubt.

Reality Check

Seastheday, "Mr. Winder" is in a fantasy world. His statement was beyond "awful" it was supremely arrogant. If he didn't mean it, why hasn't he corrected it and leave it to you to explain? He made his position a real issue so there is no "benefit of doubt" to be granted. Sadly 19 (including women) other senators agreed with him by voting for his SB1387 and without a whimper. Very bad legislation at best fueled by zealot rhetoric that does not belong in on the Senate floor.

I actually agree that Winder didn't mean what he said

to imply that a woman doesn't know whether she has been raped or not. At the same time, I have a difficult time feeling sorry for him as he brought this all on himself by sponsoring unnecessary, poorly drafted legislation to cater to the "pro-life" lobbyists. When you keep going to circles to try to explain the real purposefo of the bill and the flawed language, you are bound to get tripped up at some point. You kind of made your bed, Sen. Winder.

Winder's problem was

opening mouth and inserting foot

Education

As a moderator on a very large board, you will often see me admonish our members, "Think twice, post once!" Sen. Winder would do well to take that admonishment to heart when speaking in the public.

"I spoke with Winder, R-Boise, on Thursday, who is chagrined by all the attention and saddened that it may have contributed to the sidetracking of his bill in the House. He says he only meant that a woman might choose to continue her pregnancy if she knew the child's father were her husband, not a rapist."

The Problem with this is that an ultrasound scan does absolutely nothing in regards to who the father may or may not be. It's a picture, Sen. Winder. A bit of actual education would remedy this ignorance.

good point

Agreed.

IF the biological father is a concern, this bill would have a DNA test requirement as part of the counseling.

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Winder is proving he is a dumb-as
1) for sponsoring it without having all his talking points in line
2) bad delivery of his message
3) not correcting it.

Oh yeah and for sponsoring such a bad idea.

Out of touch

Mr. Winder is woefully out of touch with those of us who live in the 21st century. His statements prove he is insensitive to women and out of touch with his constituents. It is obviously time for Winder to move on. From this point on, he will be paralyzed by fear every time he opens his mouth which renders him incompetent as a legislator.

Let's whip those heathens into line

People with strong religious beliefs should not be elected. Because sooner or later they will try to impose their beliefs on others who do not hold the same beliefs.