By Chadd Cripe
ccripe@idahostatesman.com
© 2012 Idaho Statesman
Boise State has finalized its 2013 non-conference football schedule with the addition of Tennessee Martin, a member of the Football Championship Subdivision.
UT Martin placed the game — which will be played Sept. 21, 2013, in Boise — on its online schedule. The UT Martin sports information department confirmed to the Idaho Statesman that the game has been scheduled. The Skyhawks went 5-6 last season and plays in the Ohio Valley Conference.
However, Boise State athletics spokesman Max Corbet said the school is not ready to confirm the UT Martin game.
Boise State also will play at Washington (Sept. 7) and BYU (Oct. 26) in 2013. The other non-conference home game is against Southern Miss (Sept. 28).
The Broncos needed a home game to allow for a balanced home-road schedule in 2013. They also still need a game, likely at home, for 2012.
Here are Boise State’s future schedules:
2012
at Michigan State (Friday, Aug. 31)
vs. Miami OH (Sept. 15)
vs. BYU (Sept. 22)
at Southern Miss (Oct. 6)
Mountain West home games: Colorado State, Fresno State, San Diego State, UNLV
Mountain West road games: Hawaii, Nevada, New Mexico, Wyoming
2013
at Washington (Sept. 7)
vs. Tennessee Martin (Sept. 21)
vs. Southern Miss (Sept. 28)
at BYU (Oct. 26)
2014
vs. Ole Miss in Atlanta (Thursday, Sept. 4)
vs. BYU (Oct. 25)
2015
at BYU (Sept. 12)
vs. Washington (Sept. 19)
2016
vs. Washington State (Sept. 10)
at Oregon State (Sept. 24)
vs. BYU (Oct. 15)
2017
at Washington State (Sept. 9)
at BYU (Oct. 7)
2018
vs. BYU (Oct. 20)
2019
at BYU (Oct. 12)
2020
vs. BYU (Oct. 17)
2021
at BYU (Oct. 9)
2022
vs. Michigan State (Sept. 17)
vs. BYU (Oct. 8)
2023
at Michigan State (Sept. 16)
at BYU (Oct. 14)
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What? Who?
Were THE Little Sisters of the Poor unavailable? Seriously, it must be almost impossible to get someone to come here for one game. It would be interesting to know who turned down BSU's offer.
I know one for sure....
.
Who?
I also heard that Boise State turned down a chance at Arkansas. Why the @#$% would they do that?
Can you provide a link?
One game
Boise State can't afford to get anyone other than an FCS team to come here for one game (except maybe Idaho, but there are other issues there). The other option would have been a home-and-home, with a game in Boise in 2013 and a road game in 2014. Not sure why they weren't able to go that route.
Chadd
Guarantee Amount?
What's the dollar amount BSU guarantees programs like UT Martin? I know Mike Kramer at ISU said he won't play at BSU or at Idaho anymore, because they don't pay enough (figuring that if you are going to lose anyway, why not get more bang for your buck). I think the last time ISU played up in Moscow a couple years back, they received $150,000. Schools like Oklahoma and Georgia paid them $600,000 to $750,000, give or take.
Hasn't Kramer been
Coach for all of 1 year?
That's all...
But that's why I'm wondering what amount BSU pays, and if that's why you're not going to see a great opponent. I caught an interview with Kramer about scheduling, and he was asked about BSU and Idaho. He said something along the lines that if his team is already at a disadvantage (i.e. fewer scholarships, less $$), then he might as well make sure he plays a game which can at least help by filling the coffers.
It's not a dig at BSU, Idaho, or even ISU, I'm just curious what BSU pays a program to play here.
And he has a point
To a point. ISU can travel to Boise for about a forth of what the cost would be to Nebraska, ISU fans and alumni would get a chance to travel to a D1 game and not break the bank. And although not a huge deal, ISU shoots for 4-5 Valley kids every year,a BSU game can only help those efforts.
I thought I read that BSU gave $250K to ISU the last time. In any case.
I believe the conferences going to 9 game schedules is really going to put a squeeze on non-conference scheduling
UT Martin Game
I do not beleive this insane move...We (BSU) might at well schedule Weber State, Eastern Oregon State, or Fruitland High School. BIG mistake Bronco Nation. I almost went to Tennessee Martin because I felt I could make every team, coming from a high school with 42 in my graduating class. Their athletic programs are very weak...I checked them out extensively. I feel bad for the players and coaching staff. A bye would be better. They do have a super college rodeo team, I will say. The reason I did not attend there was because of the out-of-state tuition. This game will be an embarassment for both schools. I hope I am wrong, but I don't think I will be.
How much money do
programs make for bye weeks?
How much will we make...
after we pay this garbage school a bunch of money, and Bronco Nation boycotts this bulls--t game?
T, This was a stupid move by our school.
BSU will
net about a million for this game.
BTW, the last 2 FCS teams to play on the blue are both in the top 20 attendance games in BSU history.
I think you're overreacting, we'll have 3-5 top-25 teams on the schedule in 2013, this game is not a big deal in the scheme of things.
WHAT THE ...?
I am so tired of stupid people scheduling garbage schools. We have enough problems with our "soft" schedule without adding a @#$%ing FCS team to it.
We may as well get used to being criticized. This is bull@#$%!
RMS
You do realize that BSU will probably have 3 top-25 teams on their 2013 non-conference schedule, right?
There will also be a good chance that Cincinnati and Louisville will also be top-25....
Me thinks you may complain a little much
From the Big East?
Starting and ending in the Top 25 are completely different. That conference rarely gets more than one team in the top 25. Once WVU leaves, do you really think any of the other teams will take over? I doubt it. Even the BE gets ridiculed for it's SoS. Boise State still needs to prove itself, and probably will after they switch. We're not going to get any schedule respect if we schedule (a) any OOC teams that have had losing records for the previous 1 or 2 seasons or (b) and FCS teams. The BE isn't going to help our SoS, so we need to do it with our OOC games.
This was a bad decision. I figured with Coyles coming in, we'd be able to secure a few ACC or SEC teams for OOC, but we get Tennessee-Martin? That doesn't help.
BTW, what you read earlier is the edited version. At first, I wasn't very kind with my words.
Yup, The Big East
The BE has had 2 teams finish in the top 25 4 of the last 5 years.
Both Cincinnati and Louisville have some really good young talent.
UW - could be a top-10 team in 2013
BYU - should be a top-25 team in 2013
S. Miss. - is at that junction and could easily be a top-25 team
And Rutgers has had a couple of really good (top-25) recruiting cla$$es.
I know you want to play Nebraska every week, it just don't work that way.
Doesn't really matter...
Even if we would have put LSU on the schedule and crushed them, all we would have heard was "Big deal....so you beat a team that couldn't even put up 100 yards on their final game of the 2011 season. Why don't you play some REAL competition?"
Ha!
Heck with the "criticism". Totally irrelevant now. Boise State criticism is sooooooo 2010.
Bottom line; we win, we're in.
Conference then BCS, respectfully.
AQ ranks
I guess now that we joined the AQ ranks, we can schedule like the SEC, 4 home games vs kent States, Nw wherever State, sw Texas easterns etc.
LOL....that is the level of
LOL....that is the level of teams that BSU plays ALL season EVERY year with the exception of maybe the one decent mid level team they play once a year. If you guys played a typical SEC schedule you wouldn't even be a 500 team.
Timmy
"one decent mid level team they play once a year." eh?
Well, that decent mid-level team this season just happened to be the SEC's Eastern Division Champion, and speaking of Georgia, lets look 172 miles south of Athens at FCS Georgia Southern. They were able to put more points on the scoreboard against national champion Alabama than the SEC champion LSU, or anyone else on Bama's schedule for that matter, so please, drop that weak azz SEC BS, ok?
We can do better
I don't understand this move at all. I'd rather have a home-and-home with any FBS school (other than Sunbelt/MAC). I could understand a regional FCS school as a last resort (Idaho State, Weber State, Idaho, etc), but not one from Tennessee. I'll bet we could have at least arranged something with Fresno State. We essentially did a one and done game there last year for travel costs only, approximately $200K, to fill in a hole in the schedule going to the Mtn West. We could have offered Fresno to repay the favor and come here in 2013 for the same deal. They would sell a few more tickets at a higher price than UT Martin. If Fresno was hesitant, we could schedule a home and home after they repaid the game for travel costs (i.e 2013 in Boise for travel costs, and then home and home in 2014/2015)
We should have been taking advantage of desperate trying to fill holes in their schedule (i.e. Arkansas and Florida State). Rutgers got a home and home with Arkansas to fill a hole in their schedule. Would it be tough to travel to Michigan State, Arkansas, and Southern Miss the same year, absolutely! But how great would it be to have Arkansas on the Blue. The new AD should have been moving mountains to make that happen, and he should be doing the same thing now to get a home and home with Florida State.
UT Martin should have been a last resort desperation move made 5 months before the game. It shouldn't have been made 19-months before the deal. We'd be better off paying an extra 250K to Idaho. You'd have a sell out and be able to sell the tickets for more. A cost increase of $10 per ticket would bring an extra 300K at the gate. Pay a little more to get a regional interest game and you make it back at the gate. As a season ticket holder I'm disappointed.
Just prepping for SEC
Tenn Martin, Southern Miss, guess we're a big boy getting ready for the south and east.
Big West to the Big East, we're covering the country since 1996. Really I pretty much agree with 'downtown" post. Doesnt matter we're just BSU.
"BSU is history" ------
At some point things catch up to ya--
I dont know the details of why we scheduled Tenn martin. But ya start playing 1 and done pay games or 2 for 1 games and ya have to fill the "home game" schedule down the road with someone that will play a 1 and done with BSU???
Bingo!
Nice catch iffiy...
BTW, you see that "walker" is back and drowning everything BSU?
Ga
Guess ya mean Ga Walker? Havent really read who has been posting all the time unless I pretty much agree with them.
pay games
Think we're getting around 1.2 million from Mich St in 2012. But I dont see a return home game in 2013. Probably about 225,000 to travel for 2012 game there, then the cost of finding someone to replace Mich St at BSU.
The 1.2 million is slipping away fast if ya want a div 1 team to replace them playing at BSU a 1 and done.
iffiy
The MSU deal is a 2 for 1. We get $1.2M for the 2012 game and then each get expense checks for home-and-homes in 2022 and 2023.
I guess if this is a prelude
I guess if this is a prelude to another "big announcement" it might make more sense. However, I'd still rather have a regional opponent. Since 2005 we've had payday away games against Georgia, Washington, Virginia Tech, Georgia, Michigan State (and a Utah game they canceled the return on) and balanced them out with Sacramento State, Portland State, Weber State, UC Davis, Idaho State, and some extra home games we wrangled out of our scheduling deal with the MAC.
I guess I was hoping we could start finding decent home-and-home games. I'd rather see home and home with mid-tier BCS teams (i.e. Kentucky (hint-hint new AD) than great road games that balance into crappy FCS home opponents.
We have home and homes against Washington State and Michigan State on the future schedule. I'd like to see more series like those.
Kinda like
BYU and Washington?
Uh....seriously???
Tenn Martin?? Uh....do we get a "get-out-of-playing-Tenn-Martin" free-card on this one?
Do over please.
Ugh!
That's about as disappointing as it could get ... still beats playing Idaho though.
Sorry
but I disagree. Idaho is sure sellout.
Idaho
Not only is scheduling Idaho any easy win and sellout, it is a boon for the local economy. This is a State University how about scheduling that benefits the state coffers. Talk to any restaurant, bar, or hotel owner they will tell you that outside of Oregon coming to town there is not a better draw than Idaho from a financial standpoint.
Idaho?
You mean University of Idaho?
Are they still playing football? Really?
I thought they switched to Polo and Rowing.
I think Idaho would've been better
They both destroy any SoS arguments we might have made, but at least the Vandals would've been a better financial draw. They have a large fanbase here. But, I doubt the Vandals would've gone with a one-and-done.
Forget Idaho dudes
They will no longer play the game as from treatments done by Boiseans....Sac State is another option? Check out Cal Poly? But since you guys are a famous school from the East, try Cornell?
Actually ugly
Idaho is insisting on a game in Moscow (have even offered a 3 for 1) and Boise State has made it clear they will not, under any circ-u-mstances, play another game in the dome.
BSU4342....
I know Idaho made the offer of 3:1....a good one I may add....but I think it shows Boise's arrogance in not taking the one....it sounds like Boise will play anywhere, except in Moscow--a fellow Idahoan....
Sobeit! enjoy Tenn....and the new found east....
I hope Idaho never plays Boise again....
I thought Montana Tech had an
opening? Please dont pa$$ them up if they do....
You guys are going big time BCS....keep up the good work?
BCS for one year then at the
BCS for one year then at the end of the 2013 season the BE will not be a BCS AQ conference.
Chadd, this is a
travesty. I am so disappointed; this gives our critics more ammunition to hammer us (and deservedly so). OK, there are money issues and it's difficult to get a top team to come here for one game, but we don't have the luxury that SEC teams have who can get away with scheduling FCS teams. What's our new AD thinking? Does he believe that he will fill the stands with BSU versus Tennesee Martin? It's garbage, and the fans will treat it as such. I am so tired of this mentality...
Not so fast....
I think you should reconsider, Charlie.
Frankly, it really doesn't matter, in the least. Reason being is that we are now Borg.
We have be assimilated by the Borg. And, that's not such a bad thing. Don't forget that TV contract.
Oh...and one more little thing; Win the conference (even with 2 losses), and we're BCS bound.
Borg style.
Think about it
2013 will be Boise State's first year in the Big East with lots of adjusting to a new conference and lots of travel. The stadium will have several thousand additional seats with the addition of the new bleachers, but will not be able to accommodate the larger crowds that a home and away series with a viable opponent will require. Perhaps after the track has been removed and the field has been lowered to make way for additional seating capacity (more than 40,000... and another SBOE bond), then Boise will be a viable option for a home and away series.
Until then a one and done with the likes of Tennessee Martin will have to do.
Um, no
"The stadium will have several thousand additional seats with the addition of the new bleachers"
No, but we will have some nifty new locker rooms.
"Until then a one and done with the likes of Tennessee Martin will have to do."
We shouldn't have to settle for a garbage opponent. Here are the records for the Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks for the last 5 seasons:
2011 5-6 (4-4 conference)
2010 6-5 (5-3 conference)
2009 5-6 (4-4 conference)
2008 8-4 (6-2 conference)
2007 4-7 (3-4 conference)
This team is the best we could get? Unreal!
RMS....
Its not Tenn Martins fault....why not for them?
On Boises side, it shows alittle why Boise will becomne irrelevant in the BCS....they had their chances, but the critics are probably correct....
Schedules like this may indicate what the uppers are thinking about the future of Boise State....lets face it, their 2004-2011 teams were great....but maybe times are changing again?
Why not Tennessee-Martin?
Three letters: FCS
Boise State cannot afford to schedule any FCS teams. In fact, BSU cannot afford to schedule any team that's had a losing record over the last 5 years. Any team that falls within those two conditions will continue to argument of our "cupcake" schedule, and blah blah blah. Frankly, I'm tired of hearing about it. Boise State should push to schedule AT LEAST 2 AQ schools with winning records (Duke and Washington State won't help), and any non-aq tgeams that challenged for their conference championship. teams like Houston or Southern Miss would be good. OR, teams that are traditionally good, like East Carolina.
I just see no benefit (except the revenue of a homegame) of playing a scrub team. If we're gonna shcedule an FCS team, then make it a team that went high in the FCS playoffs or something. Seriously, a 5-6 FCS team? Ridiculous!
I believe that the plan
calls for the current bleachers in the north end zone to be moved to Dona Larsen Park with the track. The replacement bleachers will add 3,300 seat for the 2012 season. This was report by Chadd on December 8, 2011.
http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2011/12/08/ccripe/state_board_approves_boise_states_plans_22_million_football_comp
With the increased SOS from going to the Big East (I know it's not the SEC, Big 12, or Pac 12), playing one FCS school is not a schedule killer. I think eliminating league games against UNLV, New Mexico, and Colorado St, will benefit BSU far more than playing Tennessee Martin for one year will hurt them.
Long term I'd like to see Boise State set up competitive series with other schools from the Big 12 or Pac 12 in addition to the games already scheduled, I just think its going to take some time.
Good
At least they are starting to close off the southern part of the stadium. Since our mascot is a bronco, it makes sense to have our stadium in the shape of a horseshoe.
I am so puzzled
That all you wanna be ADs did not apply for the job when it was open. It is so readily apparent that each and everyone of you could have done a tremendous job.
How hard could it be right? Pick up the phone and make a deal. Why anyone could do it. At least anyone of you guys could.