Report: Boise State, Big West have discussed housing Broncos' non-football sports

By Brian Murphy
bmurphy@idahostatesman.com

Update: ESPN.com's Andy Katz is reporting that Boise State Interim Athletic Director Curt Apsey called Big West Commissioner Dennis Farrell on Wednesday.

When reached by the Idaho Statesman on Wednesday afternoon, Apsey declined to comment on the report or say whether or not he called the Big West.

"In the best interest of Boise State — and without getting more into it — we're considering all potential opportunities," Apsey told the Statesman, echoing his quote to ESPN.

Apsey said he was unaware of Big East Commissioner John Marinatto being in Boise or on campus Wednesday, as reported by the New York Post.

Earlier this month, Farrell told the Idaho Statesman that "I'm not saying we won’t expand beyond 10, but it's not an immediate goal of the conference to do so."

The league will have 10 teams next season when Hawaii, whose football program is joining the Mountain West, puts its other sports in the Big West.

"Going to 11 would be kind of awkward and going to 12 would require us to divide up into divisions. There's some reticence to do that."

Farrell said men's basketball would be a determining factor.

"Before we would bring in any school, whether it’s Boise State or anybody, we'd look at how that school would make us better particularly in the sport of men’s basketball. Would that increase our potential for more lucrative media rights package? those are the issues we would probably look at," Farrell said.

Farrell did not return a message left on his cell phone this afternoon. Earlier Wednesday, he told the Idaho Statesman that "we have not heard from anyone at Boise State. I would take a call if they called."

Current members of the Big West: Cal Poly, Cal-State Fullerton, Cal-State Northridge, Long Beach State, Pacific, UC Davis, UC Irvine, UC Riverside and UC Santa Barbara.

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Boise State has not contacted the Western Athletic Conference, the Big Sky Conference or the Big West Conference about housing its non-football sports teams, WAC Commissioner Karl Benson, Big Sky Commissioner Doug Fullerton and Big West Commissioner Dennis Farrell told the Idaho Statesman on Wednesday morning.

"We'd be happy to talk to them about that," Fullerton said. "If they needed a home, we'd be more than happy to talk to them."

Said Farrell: "We have not heard from anyone at Boise State. I would take a call if they called."

Benson, who acknowledged an informal conversation weeks ago, said Boise State has not contacted the WAC again.

Boise State is a past member of all three leagues. The Broncos were members of the Big Sky from 1970 to 1996, the Big West from 1996 to 2001 and the WAC from 2001 to 2010. The Broncos moved to the Mountain West on July 1.

If Boise State were to move its football program to the Big East, the Broncos would need a league for their other 18 programs. Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said Boise State – or any school that moves its football team out of the league — would not be allowed to keep its other programs in the conference.

Boise State President Bob Kustra told the Idaho Statesman on Oct. 15 that the school had not gotten that far.

"We haven’t gotten into that yet. That’s a conversation for another day and is certainly a big factor in what our final decision is and how anything else would work out if we ever were to move in that direction," Kustra said.

"It’s not anything that we have discussed yet. It’s a conversation that would have to happen with the athletic director and his coaches and only then would we know whether or not that would ever make any sense," he said. "We would have to weigh that and how that would look and how that positioned the rest of the sports up against this whole AQ conference issue."

Where to put their other sports would be an important decision for the Broncos, who could be officially invited to the Big East as soon as Tuesday.

The New York Post is reporting that the Big East will invite Boise State and five other schools on Tuesday.

Kustra met with officials from the Big East on Sunday. The Big East believes it can hold onto BCS AQ status with its expansion plan, The New York Times reported.

Realignment news

• Multiple media outlets are reporting that the Big 12 is now re-considering the addition of West Virginia and is considering Louisville instead. Both West Virginia and Louisville are current Big East schools.

• The Western Athletic Conference announced Wednesday that is plans to add two additional football-playing members for the 2013-14 season. That is in keeping with the conference's plan to get to nine football-playing members and 12 overall members.

• BYU football coach Bronco Mendenhall discussed realignment at length with Greg Wrubell, the play-by-play "Voice of the Cougars." Mendenhall had some interesting things to say, but this is of the most interest to Boise State:

"Boise State finds themselves in a similar situation. It would make a lot of sense to me, if anyone wanted a partnership and wanted a natural rivalry, to take us and Boise and put us in the league...you'd have two excellent football teams, and I think people would be surprised at what would happen."

CBSSports.com's Brett McMurphy has reported that Boise State and Air Force are pushing for BYU to be included in the Big East expansion plans as part of a "West Division."

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BSU Big East Expansion

I say if the Big East needs us to keep their AQ status... they take all of our sports or none... It could be without us the Big East will fall apart much like the Mountain West when we joined. There are arguments on both sides to stay or go... the biggest being money. The TV contract with the MWC is horrible and everyone knows it and the league is really not that much better then the WAC. I like the 32 team league idea but it might be too big... how about the MWC and the Big East combine with a few from C-USA and form a scaled down version of 16-20?

Expensive

For us to have all the sports in the Big East. I don't think that's where we want the non-revenue producing sports.

Right. Just another in the

Right. Just another in the long list of reasons to not join the Big Least.

Big Sky! Big Sky!

I would LOVE for Boise State to go to the Big Sky. It's a much better fit for their other sports, none of which have the "upper echelon" split that football does so it's not really a downgrade at all. It would be fun to get to see the Broncos in some away games, with the Big West having such a tight geographical footprint.

You have no clue

The BSU tennis teams are ranked. The Wrestling team has been Pac-10 Champs 6 times since 2000. And the Track & Field team is also nationally successful.

What other sports programs are you insulting

Although I am a MUCH bigger

Although I am a MUCH bigger football fan than any other sports I would still be pretty bummed out to take our basketball team back down to one of those other conferences. I was looking forward to better recruiting capabilities and better teams offered in the MWC.

Is Murph in his right mind?

Not trying to be haughty but the Big Sky? Really Murph? You wasted a phone call to the Big Sky commish? We all agree football is KING but to waste the time calling the Big West and the Big Sky is almost funny. Except you probably used the Statesman phone line, money wasted that could be paid to a Mr. Chadd Cripe. I guess at best you can call it "being thorough".

The West

Assuming BSU went to the Big East for football only, where are they going to stick their olympic sports? Why not explore the Big Sky and Big West? The MWC won't take the olympic sports. There may not be a WAC to place the sports, and if there is, it could be without Utah State and San Jose State. The WAC could be a mostly southwest based conference with many schools who have a lower RPI than many of the Big West and Big Sky schools. Texas State? Texas Arlington? Texas-SA?

Travel wise, the Big West would allow the teams to fly into most major airports. The Big Sky is more rural, but travel is still manageable (with cities such as Portland, Spokane, and Sacramento thrown into the mix).

At this point, they'd better cover all bases.

MSP

Big West? Possibly. Cool college towns, tho small. The Big Sky? It was great when we were a toddler learning to walk.

JL

The Big Sky may be the only toll call left in the country......

Looks like We hold the cards

If not Big 12 then definitely Big East. I know basketball with all the games played would be spendy but then Big East B-ball is huge compared to where we're at. So a few questions: is our B-ball staff as good as our football staff, can we once again sell out the arena or at least 10,000+ (like in the Bobby Dye days) with national powers coming in on a regular basis, as in football the recruiting would be better as well. Have you checked the latest recruits who may be coming here for football, it's getting better and better. I say let's take a chance on Leon and his staff and go football and basketball!!!!!

all reports have stated....

that any interest the Big East has in BSU is for football only. I haven't seen or read any credible report that they would even consider BSU for basketball. In order for BSU to go to the Big East, they MUST find a home for the other sports. That is a requirement, and something that has to be worked out behind the scenes before accepting an invite. Hopefully, if an invite comes it will be with a caveat that the buy-out is waved if they lose AQ status. The ONLY advantage to joining the BE is AQ and the money it brings to off-set travel expenses. The competition is non-existent. Their conference champion last year wasn't even in the Top-25 a week before the end of the season!

They don't call him

Bronco for nothing.........

Citing stories from the New York Post???

What's next - stories from the National Enquirer?

No...True accounts of steetwalker lives.

It only makes sense, based on the yellow sports journalism here lately.

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I NEVER hate telling you I was right...I would be dead if I did. Get real.

Another dayof As the world turns ACQ

Student Athletes-take them into consideration?
student athletes a scary word-nobody talks about those two words? greed greed and greed-shame on you non qualifying conferences-should I mention those two words again?-Football only conference -and all the other sports in another conference. gee Bob you play football-yes I do what conference The Big East-huhI thought you were in the Mountain West nope we play in a football conference only i play basketball for the school and I am in the Big sky like all the other sports Why? dunno

Do i have to spell it out Bob K

wiesberg...your beginning to make sense and that's scary!

And, what you are saying is precisely why I advocate the bcs schools leave the ncaa and establish a system that pays these kids actual cash-in-hand money and forget about the education to do what they are really being hired to do. then the rest of the ncaa schools can get back to focus on the true mission of the ncaa.

It's obvious it's not

the original weisberg. I thought I'd never say this but the original weisberg will be missed.

LOL!

You are seconding my thoughts...it seemed kinda scary that weisberg could string two thoughts together!

geeez weisberg...

more than one sentence! im speechless!..

Predicting (lott of fun)

I believe the following-Boise State will remain in the Mountain West Conference-All the hoopla is fun for all of us-The Mountain West deserves a automatic bid- yes Bob I agree with you regarding a automatic bid- Bob you are the leader of the school please Bob start acting that way-Bob please please Bob think of the best interests of all the student athletes-Bob i know you main goal at the school as the leader is to get the school in a bcs conference-Please please Bob give it up for now patience Bob one day soon everybody will qualify Bob-like this year if Boise State does not play in the title game -I am predicting Bob the will play in a bcs game In New Orleans the Sugar Bowl Bob-that Bob should make you happy for once Bob-and Bob look at the bright side Bob you will not have yo think about those three little letters Bob- and Bob you can for once in your life concentrate on being the leader of the school again Bob-you can delegate and all that other stuff-Bob-please please listen to the people sounds corny what the heck Bob

I predict Murphy will retire from Chicago Connection and Cripe?

He'll be driving the floor truck at the Nampa WinCo Foods at 3 am.

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BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP Look out sir!

Where were you when . . .

. . . you first realized the BSU Broncos were poised to be a perrenial powerhouse in the national football scene? What game was it?

For me it was the BSU/UTEP game SEP '04:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=242622638&period=2

I knew after that game that we would hear more about the BSU Broncos, in time, as a team to be reckoned with on the National Stage. I can remember that game like it was yesterday - with over 1,000 members of Idaho's 116th Cavalry Brigade in the stands for that game - as they happened, coincidentally, to be at Fort Bliss near El Paso getting training to deploy to Iraq for the First Time.

For some people it was the First Fiesta Bowl JAN '07.

For me it was that UTEP game. It just hit me like a ton of bricks about an hour after the game ended, that BSU was special and poised for Greatness.

It was one of those 'Wow' moments - so very rare in life.

Anybody else remember where, when, what game, gave them that special moment when they just knew BSU was going on to Much Bigger things on the National Scene?

VNDL

PS - And to think, we are having a serious discussion about BSU's chances to play for a BCS Natty - not just 'pie in the sky' yakking about someday - but instead - talking about it today - 7 years after the BSU/UTEP game - as it is a real possibility.

Broncos/I hope everyone answers this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtJFnrG-UX4

Where were you when

Good Post

Boise State fans we need to thank the following coaches where the school is at in football today-Dirk Koetter-Dan Hawkins and of course coach Pete

It was 2001...

when I was sitting in a brew pub in Ukiah, CA watching the Broncos throttle the highly respected Fresno St. Bulldogs. People were speechless after BSU manhandled the Bulldogs. I knew then Boise was for real.

Maybe HUD should house them.

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I NEVER hate telling you I was right...I would be dead if I did. Get real.

At this point, I'm not sure what's best

I was advocating BYU, Boise St., Air Force, and Houston create a Big East-West if the Big 12 isn't an option. I still think that might be better than a Big East-CUSA-MWC merger.

Biggest problem though... WAC commish Karl Benson was saying on an ESPN article that the BCS was looking at changing its formula to take the top ten BCS schools regardless of conference affiliation.

If that turns out to be true (and it'll take "the next 9 months" to decide) then what's the point of joining the Big East?

http://www.planetbyu.com

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Please, no. I was *really* looking forward to having a legit basketball program to root for...

You don't like the 'Yotes or Crusaders?

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Everybody wants to hue the knurled

has anyone else

thought about this: we wait until the season is over to make a decision. the planets align and we go to the nc and win. would we not have some offers then from the big 12(and possibly pac 12, although the nc does nothing to enhance our academics). just wondering about the possible effect this long shot scenario could introduce.

81

At the end of the day, the only conference that "needs" a great football team more than they need academics and TV markets is the Big East.

I just don't see the Big 12 or PAC2 stepping up

I am reposting this

from another blog. It was a repost where I found it so I cannot post that author. If you are a Jack Nicholson fan you will get it right away.
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we live in a world that has footballs, and those footballs have to be thrown by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? SMU? You, BYU? Boise State has a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Oklahoma, and you curse the MWC. You have that luxury.
You have the luxury of not knowing what Kellen knows. That the Big 12’s undoing, while tragic, probably saved football. And Boise State’s existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves football.
You don't want the truth because deep down in places OU and the University of Texas don't talk about at parties, they want Boise State on that wall, they need Boise State on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending the rock. You use them as a punchline.
Boise State has neither the time nor the inclination to explain football to universities who rise and sleep under the blanket of the very game that Boise State provides, and then questions the manner in which Boise State provides it. Chris Petersen would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a football, and run a post.
Either way, Boise State doesn’t give a d*mn what you think you are entitled to.
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Freaking Classic!

I worry about

Bronco football after Kellen Moore leaves the program.

When you look

at what we have coming back, it's not so scary...

Leadership

In my mind it's all about leadership. BSU has been awesome under Kellen's leadership. I'm a nervous nellie until I see another leader emerge.

great post!

:)

Here is what one well thought person has to say may happen.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/chrono/32954143

I never thought the move to the Big East would be a good idea. Too many problems, not enough of a guarantee for longterm positive outcome.

some opinion

That is just somebody's opinion. If BSU gets an invite for the football team to join they cannot afford to say no. There is less risk to being left out of the AQ club being in the Big East than there is being left out in the MW.

Looks like the Big East

will be in town tomorrow

kid, you think you can get the board a sit-down with these easterners?

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/32956085

What I can get us ...

..is thrown out, but that's about all I can get us ;-)

They're here to finalize formalities and take a facilities tour.

That's too bad

I got out my best polyester just in case......

make sure they see this

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/912600-2011-heisman-race-why-kellen-moore-and-andrew-luck-need-to-trade-places

fantastic link.

Thanks 81 !

this is like saying you are hot for jenny but it never happens

little red-headed girl territory, charlie brown

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