Report: Idaho Vandals pursuing Mountain West Conference invite

By Brian Murphy
bmurphy@idahostatesman.com

You can add Idaho to the list of Western Athletic Conference teams that have contacted the Mountain West Conference about future membership.

The (Spokane, Wash.) Spokesman Review reports that Idaho athletic director Rob Spear has talked to MWC commissioner Craig Thompson. "We are exploring all avenues and this includes the Mountain West," Spear told the paper.

Boise State (2011), Fresno State (2012), Hawaii (2012, football only) and Nevada (2012) are moving from the WAC to the Mountain West, which is losing Utah, BYU and TCU in the next two years.

Earlier this week, the San Jose Mercury News reported that San Jose State was interested in jumping to the Mountain West.

Thompson told our Chadd Cripe that he has had one conversation with the Spartans — when they asked to be considered for potential expansion.

Mountain West officials will meet next week and expansion is expected to be among the topics discussed. But Thompson said he has not been given the go-ahead by his presidents to pursue additional members.

As it stands, the Mountain West will be a 10-team football league beginning in 2012.

If the league were to expand, Idaho would seem to be well down the list of contenders for expansion. But Spear has no choice but to pursue an invitation. Current WAC member Utah State has also been linked to the Mountain West, as schools look to jump to what is perceived as the more stable conference.

WAC commissioner Karl Benson acknowledged as much last week in an interview about expansion with the San Antonio News Express.

“Unfortunately, we're kind of held at bay until the Mountain West makes their decision,” Benson told the newspaper. “Obviously there are WAC schools that might be on the list. It's something we have to recognize as a possibility. We are certainly hoping there isn't any further deletion.”

The WAC has added Texas State, Texas-San Antonio and non-football playing Denver beginning in 2012.

Benson told the newspaper that Seattle, Cal-State Bakersfield and Utah Valley will be considered as non-football playing members. The paper reported that the list of potential football schools includes: Louisiana-Lafayette, Lamar, Sam Houston State, California-Davis, Portland State and Cal Poly and possibly new attempts at luring Montana and North Texas.

• There was some good news for the WAC. The NCAA passed a new rule that will allow the WAC to keep its automatic berths in NCAA tournaments, berths that were put in jeopardy by the defections under old rules.

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Absolutely Cruel Murph

Dont start this Murpy. All you are doing is pot stirring and causing HOPE where there is none. Its shameful and I feel sorry for Vandal Alum everywhere.

Hey Landon

I agree with you. I'm thrilled Idaho is in the WAC and I honestly want to see them stay there and build a new conference with members who have the willingness be committed to the conference.

They could compete for the WAC title every year

And they could. I think if they can keep Akey they can win championships in the WAC. Grow the program.

Or go to the MWC...

which is the WAC 2.0 and have a similar opportunity at greatness.

Greatness?

You are delusional. You cant compete with the Broncos dude. Its an arm race you cant win. You have nothing to market, zero cash and a stadium people wont play in.

Yawn...

Your donkey house of card will crumble eventually. They always do. When did you start liking BJC... 7 or 8 years ago?

1977....

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Good for you.

I've been following the Vandals since 1976.

Following the Vandals?

Like the Israelites, wandering for 40 years in the wilderness. Do you pick up the stuff the Vandals drop? Like games, and stuff? Betcha got a full bag.

That explains all the axe scars in your car.

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Happy Jesus Thing and a Chinese New Year

You forgot the rule:

The first liar hasn't got a chance.

Ha ha. Exactly.

He might have followed BJC since 1960 or 2004...

at least you admit

you are a liar. landon posts the truth.

That's Judge Judy's Law.

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Happy Jesus Thing and a Chinese New Year

Yes they could compete

They would compete for a WAC title every year in basketball too. I do think UTSA is going to be a sleeper in football and could become the WAC's next high profile football program. A few years ago I read a comprehensive article about their plans and the money behind them to accommplish their goals. It will be interesting to watch.

I have some friends who....

are proud ex basketball players from Idaho. They love the direction of the program. I think Verlin is a great coach and does a fine job up there. Hes a must keep too.

Yes, Verlin has

changed the culture in a positive way the past three years have been fun to watch. I think this year's team is the best. They are not the most athletic but they are savy. Fun to watch. I don't know about your friends but I have increased my giving the Vandal Scholarship Fund and have been matching this contribution into the Coaches Excellence Fund because I want to see the coaches stay for the long haul.

Verlin and these players are a fresh breath...

of air for Vandal basketball. It's fun seeing this program defy the pre-season projections so far. They're playing solid ball. I'll be interested to see what Rice does at BJC after another season or two. I think he'll end up being a gem of a grab for their program.

Rice is going to do well

in Boise. Unlike Verlin, he was able to step in with a solid players already in the program. So far it seems the players have responded well to him. I had the chance to travel down to Eugene and watch Idaho play Oregon. Going into the game I sorta figured Idaho would provide a good challenge and go home with a hard fought loss. However, they dismantled the Ducks and I have to say I was very surprised by the discipline and how well they out smarted the Ducks. That game made me a believer and I started getting really excited again! I wish that I could attend Saturday's game against BSU. It should be very entertaining.

sportsisfun.

I think you are right about UTSA. The money they have to build the program will go a long ways in establishing a stable program built from scratch. I guess thats the benefit of being in Texas where football has been huge for some time. Good insight '60.

The money they have

makes me (I hate to admit this) feel jealous as he!!. My biggest hope for Idaho is being affiliated with UTSA and Texas St will provide more opportunity to attract recruits from Texas. However, I don't put a lot of hope in that because the recruits Idaho got from Florida and Lousiana during the Sun Belt days didn't turn out to be such a positive outcome.

JLandon, I feel sorry for...

the fact that BSU football and the Idaho Statesman forum seems to be your entire life.

Yup you nailed it

Since you have posted 50 times to my 1 the last month. Where did you learn those great comprehension skills?

It's like the flu...

One hack and it's too late.

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Happy Jesus Thing and a Chinese New Year

Murph has never heard of pacing himself

Its January and murph writes the funniest piece of 2011. What can we look forward to now? 11 months of second rate material. Seriously though this is funny. Tomorrows piece is how BSU wants an SEC invite. Murph.... the only guy who can say that the Broncos are screwed in the BCS even before the season starts but the vandies are MWC bound.....
How many schools would the MWC have to expand to to include Idaho? 30? 40? It does show that no matter what benson says the WAC is in dire straits and every body is trying to fight for survival. The end of D1 football for some "academic schools" is closer than some schools seem to think.

wisdom says...........

You crawl before you walk

Unless you are a fish, reptile or fish.

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Happy Jesus Thing and a Chinese New Year

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OMG that was freaking funny!
Oh the fantasies that some schools have.
Imaho knows they are screwed, but unlike Boise St. they add nothing of marketable value in sports.
List of schools more likely to get into the MWC before Idaho: North Texas, Texas State, SJSU, NMSU, Utah St., LaTech.

Boisefan... That was Mean of You

They have a lot to offer. They have the Pity Dome and it has windows now.

Nice Try Murphy

Stir the Pot. I can only imagine that every school left in the doomed WAC have "contacted the MWC." Nothing more to it. The remaining WAC schools see themselves homeless soon and they are trying to save themselves. Idaho will soon be homeless, the rivalry is all but dead, and Murphy is doing all he can to make his position as Idaho Statesman's U of I representative justified by implying news that everyone knows won't happen.

Nice try at being an idiot, Steve_ID

Congrats... you win!

Is That You Murphy?

When your world rests on delusional hopes of the uneducated, I would expect the type of response that Some-Guy gives. I suspect that Some-Guy is a Vandal fan that like all of his inbred brethren, he lives in the past. Once thought of as "cutting edge" by installing the world's biggest wooden dome, the dome has now become the crutch and is nothing more than a novelty. Fans that think that the U of I's facilities are sufficient to justify an invite to a bigger conference are beyond delusional. The news you base your hopes on is nothing but speculative and wishful rumor, and probably started by the author of the story.

It doesn't scream about Obamacare like Rancher....

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Happy Jesus Thing and a Chinese New Year

I Told You Dudes....

its not over....the arrogance of some BSU fans foaming and frothing as if always a national champion and nobody will play BSU on their terms....Yes, I thought Idaho should retreat back to big sky; but my heart always said...don't quit UI.....dont quit!.....

in a marathon you have 26.2 miles to run...at mile 18-20 is what is known as 'The Wall'...many runners want to quit...you keep going!!!!....to run a good marathon takes time...

to rebuild a college football team also takes time...Hawkins????...Erickson???....Idaho can bounce back in a good 3 or 4 years under good visionary leadership....I am now wearing my Idaho shirt in front of all that ugly blue and orange.....

Go Vandals!!!!!!! The rivarly continues!!!!!!!!!

I agree with VNDL

They don't play again until Bronco Bob is gone and the cooperative spirit is rekindled.

You Da Man

Ugly, I agree with you. Idaho should not retreat back to the Big Sky. They should wait for the WAC to implode (very soon). Maybe the vanduls can go to the Sun Belt again or play Idaho 5A High School Football. Oh Yea, now we are talking.

I might have been rash. Why wouldn't the MWC want Idaho? The Pity dome has new windows and they added 12 new seats.

PS. How's that AD Robbie Spears working out for you?

BSU_Broncos_Rock

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You stated, in writing that the Vanduls (University of Idaho Vandals) can go play Idaho 5A High School Football. That is not possible and is a lie. Vandal football players cannot compete with high school students, per NCAA rules and restrictions. The information you provided is false, misleading or inaccurate, and is an outlandish lie.

I will continue to monitor your postings and will flag any that I believe are violative of the Statesman TOS.

VNDL

Monitor Away

Are ya watching me.....

I would like to keep kicking vandul butt up and down the field every year, but no games are scheduled. Which is good for BSU, as the vanduls are a drain on our SOS.

I support everything that President Kustra said about the vanduls.

How long is the WAC going to survive with the loss of the WAC power teams.

PS. How's that AD Robbie Spears working out for you?

BSU_Broncos_Rock

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You continue to state, in writing that the University of Idaho Athletic Director is 'Robbie Spears'. That is a lie. His name is Rob Spear (no 's'). The information you provided is false, misleading or inaccurate, and is outlandishly misleading and grossly innacurate.

I will continue to monitor your postings and will flag any that I believe are violative of the Statesman TOS.

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Future

Expansion isn't going to end in 2011, 2012, 2013, or even 2014 or 2015. It will always happen because conferences are trying to get better than what they are presently. Take the Mtn West for example, 2 to 3 years ago wasn't interested in BSU, sad that it took the threat of expansion from other conferences to convince them. Who knows, perhaps if they would have added them sooner, this conversation wouldn't be taking place. The point is this, at the present, I don't think Idaho is in a real position to move onward. (Notice "I" and "think", meaning my opinion). However, I do see Idaho becoming better and, who knows, one day in the near future, moving onward. The Mtn. West, as well as every other conference, wants what is best for them and not the outsiders looking in. I said that when BSU wanted in and I'm saying it now for every school seeking the same thing.

Vandals Want In ?

No. They bring nothing to the table except poverty and poor turn out. They belong in 1AA.

The Story Line.... Read the Story

vandul fans.... wake up and smell the state of vandul football.

The story isn't the MWC contacted Idaho. The story is that the WAC is in big trouble. No matter how rosy the WAC and the vanduls try to paint the picture. The vandul ad Robby Spears contacted the MWC wanting, begging to be allow into the MWC. The MWC didn’t contact Idaho. When the ship is sinking the rats start looking for a place to jump to. San Jose, Utah State, and Idaho all trying to find some place to jump to.

No matter how much I love watching you lose every year, it makes no sense for the MWC to want Idaho. Dumpy potato barn, not many fans travel, have a terrible football program, AD Spears if not a very good AD, D1 Football has long passed the vanduls behind so not much of a future (correction not D1, but 1AA, because the vanduls have never been anything in D1 football), no TV market, no worse fans than the vandul fans, Moscow is a horrible place to try and travel to, come on why take the vanduls. Utah State isn't very good, but at least you get some TV market. Houston and SMU have TV markets, travel distance is a not great, but at least you can get flights to Dallas and Houston.

Once LaTech leaves the WAC, the WAC is officially toast.

PS. How's that AD Robbie Spears working out for you?

BSU_Broncos_Rock

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You stated, in writing that Moscow is a horrible place to try and travel to. This is not true. Moscow has a regional airport approximately 4 miles from the city center and has scheduled flights on several regional carriers. In addition a good state highway runs through Moscow. Possibly you have defamed the good citizens of Moscow, Idaho with your outlandish lies. The information you provided is false, misleading or inaccurate.

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Flag away

I will say it again, Moscow is a horrible place to try and travel to. It has a small regional airport, but it is that small with limited service. It has no major airport, the closest major airport is Spokane. It is a horrible place to travel to! You do realize that I am taking about football teams traveling to Moscow. It isn't the best of place to travel to driving in the winter or flying to, because the selection of flights is not to great and the road in winter, not great. Traveling to Boise, major airport, traveling to Hawaii again major airport, traveling to San Jose again major airport, you get the picture. Moscow only has a small regional airport with limited flights. Winter travel outside of flying, maybe you can explain what Interstate you take.

Flag away, I stand by my comments.

PS. How's that AD Robbie Spears working out for you?

Okay - so be it - Since you gave permission

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You stated, in writing that Moscow is a horrible place to try and travel to. This is not true. Moscow has a regional airport approximately 4 miles from the city center and has scheduled flights on several regional carriers. In addition a good state highway runs through Moscow. Possibly you have defamed the good citizens of Moscow, Idaho with your outlandish lies. The information you provided is false, misleading or inaccurate.

I will continue to monitor your postings and will flag any that I believe are violative of the Statesman TOS.

VNDL

vndl

where is city center in moscow?

Ω City center ...

... is about 30 feet south of "Resume Speed".

razor is funny

10 yards.

Ω At least ...

... I didn't get flagged and go back 10. Not yet anyway.

VNDL's in unique form. Someone spike his Tabasco® with a few drops of capsaicin?

razor - Maybe that Dale Carnegie course ain't working tonite

Just sort of pizzed me off to see JLandon get attacked, outta the blue, like he got from that azzhole Vandal. That set me off at first.

So I lit him up.

Then I saw an azzhole Bronco attacking somebody, too.

So I lit him up.

I just want to have some good vibes and not a bunch of azzholes (Vandulls or Donkos) acting all azzholie. Was feeling kinda humourous and playful when I first got on. When these threads get into the Vandal/Bronco stuff - they go to hel! real fast, anymore. Murphy knows it and just baits people, I am beginning to think. It is kinda why I don't want Vandals and Broncos to play any more games, for at least a long time (5 years at least). Let this crap simmer down and cool off.

Been one of those days, I guess:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLYrBxmAaso&feature=related

VNDL

PS - Where is BDuck, when I am in the mood for word wrasslin'?