Mountain West comments on conference shake-ups; Colorado officially joins the Pac-10

UPDATED: 4:46 p.m. — Oklahoma State is refuting a TMZ Sports report that it is leaving for the Pac-10 immediately.

But George Schroeder of the Eugene (Ore.) Register-Guard says "you can take it to the bank" that the Pac-16 will become a reality.

UDPATED: 1:59 p.m. — A Kansas City TV station is reporting that Texas and Texas A&M are trying to get into the Big Ten and that Oklahoma is looking toward the SEC.

Chip Brown — the OrangeBloods.com reporter who has been all over expansion — tweets that you should not believe the TV report: "There's a KC TV report saying Texas, A&M to Big Ten That would be news to those schools."

UPDATE: 1:26 p.m. — This has nothing to do with expansion, but the NCAA has hit USC hard for violations stemming from the Reggie Bush era (2004-05).

Click here for the full report in PDF format.

Here are the basic penalties: 2-year postseason ban, 30 lost scholarships over three years, vacate 2005 Orange Bowl victory against Oklahoma (national title game) and all 2005 wins.

NCAA committee also seriously considered television ban.

UPDATE: 12:47 p.m. — Here's the latest statement from Mountain West Conference commissioner Craig Thompson regarding conference expansion/realignment:

“The Mountain West Conference is fully in tune with the ongoing developments in the intercollegiate athletics landscape, including today’s announcement of a change in other conferences’ memberships. We remain in communication with key parties and are continuing to implement our internal strategies. These deliberations are ongoing and will be remain confidential until the appropriate time.”

10:21 a.m. — Here is the official release from the Pac-10:

WALNUT CREEK, Calif.--The Pacific-10 Conference announced today that the University of Colorado at Boulder has accepted an invitation to join the Conference as its 11th member, the first new member since July 1, 1978.

“This is an historic moment for the Conference, as the Pac-10 is poised for tremendous growth. The University of Colorado is a great fit for the Conference both academically and athletically and we are incredibly excited to welcome Colorado to the Pac-10,” said Commissioner Larry Scott.

“On behalf of The University of Colorado students, faculty, alumni and fans, we are proud to accept this invitation from the Pac-10 and join the most prestigious academic and athletic conference in the nation, “ said Philip P. DiStefano, chancellor of CU-Boulder.

“The University of Colorado is a perfect match - academically and athletically - with the Pac-10,” said University of Colorado President Bruce D. Benson, “our achievements and aspirations match those of the universities in the conference and we look forward to a productive relationship.”

Commissioner Scott, Chancellor DiStefano, President Benson, CU Board of Regents Chairman Steve Bosely and CU Athletics Director Mike Bohn and others will hold an official press conference on Friday, June 11, 2010 at 11 a.m. MT at Folsom Field in Boulder, Colo.

What's next?

The Nebraska Board of Regents will meet Friday and, according to reports, vote to accept an invitation to the Big Ten.

Now it's up to Texas and the other schools in the Big 12 South to decide the next move. Do they head West to join the Pac-10, cobble together a few more schools to keep the Big 12 intact or splinter in several directions (Texas A&M to the SEC?)?

Mountain West impact

The Mountain West delayed a decision on expansion at last week's presidents' meetings in Jackson, Wyo., because of the uncertainty surrounding the conference landscape.

Now what does the conference do now?

Some suggest partnering with Big 12 leftovers — Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Baylor and/or Iowa State.

Missouri's chancellor says "Anything could happen."

Boise State is nervously watching and waiting as the conference dominoes fall into place. Is there a place in the Mountain West for the Broncos?

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And so it begins

Any bets Norte Dame is in the Big 10 within 30 days?

you may be correct

although nd does have a sweet deal as an independent. playing michigan, michigan state, penn state, ohio state, wisconsin, iowa & purdue every year may relegate them to permanent also ran status.

Except for them being in god-forsaken Colorado after all.

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Here we go

Its time to sit back and watch the madness!
BSU will not be left out when all this is done. Imagine a soon to be disbanded WAC with the Nat Champion in it. Left out of the next years competition..... BYU?

tater2

If the Broncos get no invite to the MWC or the newly aligned (what's left of the) Big 12, what should they do? What's your thoughts on becoming an Independent for a few years?

JLandon

I'm very against that. I just don't think we could survive without a conference on the Chance of maybe getting one later. If you are jumping off a sinking ship you better have a life jacket.
But Kid is all for it. If that happened and it worked out. I'd be the leader of the fire gene and hire kid as A.D. campaign......

tater2

I agree. We are not Notre Dame and dont have millions of dollars paid to us by NBC. I just wonder if AD Gene has discussed it at all.

I just don't get the MWC fixation that going on

Various message boards are heating up with chatter of BSU and Utah, possibly going Big 12 to geographically replace Nebraska and Colorado. I have no idea if it's true or not, but at least it would make for a better speculation piece than BSU going to the MWC.
I heard on ESPN this morning that that a report out of Notre Dame is saying that Catholicism and Independence are cornerstones of it's football program. To me, that sounds as if ND is staying put.
My take on BSU going Independent would only viable if BSU and ESPN were to reach a TV agreement similar to NBC/ND's, but at this point, and considering all the changes that are about to occur, I think that the Statesman should drop their focus on the MWC and start pumping out stories about BSU going to the Big 12 in hopes that it gains traction.

Why Not

That's as good as speculation as BSU joining the MWC for sure.

Ask

Ask Utah State how well that worked out for them when they took that chance. It was so awful they begged to get into the Sunbelt.

dsjr

Very good point. They hated it and lost a lot of revenue that I dont know if they have recovered from it yet.

Yeah, there you go.

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And it cheeses your melon bad, check out the rage man.

Wasnt this the team...

the MWC wanted so badly that they put the skids on inviting Boise State? I wonder why the Pac 10 (now 11) didnt want to wait to announce this when others may be joining the conference soon anyways?

Murph you see how hard the NCAA hit USC?

This is great! The end of the Big 12 as we know it. Hopefully the MWC will take the stragglers like ku and ksu then take us as well. Expansion should be interesting. USC penalties will really shake things up in the Pac-10. Lots of liscence plate covers are being taken off beamers in So Cal. No wonder Pete Carroll bailed out when he did, classy.

In the WAC to stay

The MWC would gladly take the Big 12 leftovers vs adding BSU.

Depends

It would depend on if the Big 12 would disband altogether. If they do, then you are probably right. Adding TCU and SMU would make the Big 12 seem almost as strong as before losing Nebraska and Colorado. IF thats the only teams it loses.

Not all of them

I don't see Iowa State finding a home in the MWC over BSU. Maybe even Baylor. But for the most part... I think you're totally right. Unless the amount of teams the MWC acquires leaves an odd number of teams, then they might take BSU as well.

Not really....................

Big 12 leftovers would NOT help the calc's on the MWC's quest for an auto-berth status in the BCS, as BSU's numbers DID.....Do your homework.......
That being said, you support this claim HOW??

Murph or Chadd.....

What is the deal if the landscape isn't clear by July...... Can BSU still get out of the WAC or does that put us in the precarious position of hopeing for an invite next year from one of the previously settled conferences? Or are we confident that this will pan out in the next 2 and a half weeks........

Potato2

Colorado's move is for 2012, so is Nebraska's. The July 1 deadline is for play beginning in 2011. If the conferences decide that 2012 is the new timeline, then BSU would have until July 1, 2011 to let the WAC know.

-- murph

So

Is the realistic move for BSU going to be in 2012 or is the money still on BSU joining in 2011 the MWC and then the MWC adding Remanent Big 12 teams later? Or is it just so volitale nobody has a guess?

MWC Considerations

If the Mountain West wants their changes to count for BCS AQ consideration, then BSU needs to be playing in the MWC in 2011. The current AQ conferences don't have to worry about that. They can set their time-lines according to current TV deals, which is what this is about for them.

The Mountain West isn't in that position. I know they don't like to hear it, but they are barely ahead of the WAC in regard to rankings. KU, KS, Missouri, and Baylor want nothing to do with the MWC if they can help it. The only way they join the MWC is if their only other choices are the Sunbelt, MAC or Conference USA. I don't think those will be their only other choices. Oh yeah, Iowa State just doesn't matter.

The July 1 date is simply something the WAC conference has in place. BSU would have to pay a fine if they announced after June 30. Also, for scheduling reasons, it is good to do this as soon as possible.

I'm sure that the BCS will change their system because of this

so any BCS consideration for the MWC can probably be tossed out the window.

Odds are, that in the event that the Big 12 is disbanded, it would make more sense for those teams to head to the Big East or the ACC considering that they're BCS conferences. I just don't see a BCS team making a decision to move into a non-BCS conference

My understanding....

Is that the deadline for the WAC isnt really a deadline. If Boise State decides to leave after July 1st I think Benson said there would be a financial penalty of some sort. That may just be rumor though.

JLandon

That's right. We reported that earlier this week. BSU will face a stiffer financial penalty for leaving after July 1.

-- murph

Interesting

The PAC-10 has to take at least one more team. Will Texas head west? What is the Big 10 offering? Geography says the Big 10 would be a better place for BIG 12 teams. The Big 10 already makes more money than the Big 12, this would be a great move.

Just for fun, say that Texas A&M, Kansas, Kansas St, and Missouri are headed to the SEC. Then take Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Nebraska, Texas, and Texas Tech to the Big 10. Baylor and La Tech head to Conference USA.

Utah would go to the PAC-10 to get to 12 teams. What teams would the MWC take to get to 10 (two teams), 12 (four teams) or 16 (8 teams)? Does the WAC disappear? What about Hawaii? Stay tuned!

This, of course, is all crazy and only being done for money. However, it is fun to play the what if games. Ain't the "big time" great!?

You Can

You can play what if games all day long, but your scenario has zero chance of happening.

A year ago...

A year ago, the idea of a PAC-16 was nuts. In this atmosphere, anything is possible. Like you, I have no idea—with any certainty—how this is going to turn out.

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pac10 makes more money then big 10, and what do most conferences and college want most?

That's not true

The Big 12, Big 10 and SEC all makes more money than the PAC-10, based on gate receipts, bowl money, and TV deals. Just think of average stadium size for the Big 3 compared to the PAC-10. The other 3 also kill the PAC-10 in TV money, that is the big reason the PAC-10 is doing this.

Last choice

When the dust settles the last pick will be BS-U.

Last choice

Will that be a good or bad thing? Is getting picked last better than not getting picked at all?

1st domino fall

This is interesting. Saying The PAC 11 just doesn't have the same ring anymore. I think it should be renamed "the PAC" and when BSU joins the conference we can use "Attack the PAC" as our war cry.

Another One

Another delusional fan that thinks BSU is going to join the Pac 10, what are you guys on???

Hes being facetious

I love bluephan but I don't think he's really serious. I don't know what he's on though. Bluephan?

Life

just don't take it to seriously.

Point

Point Taken

Wishful thinking

I know it's almost impossible but hey I thought it was catchy when BSU joined the WAC just can't come up with a good one if they join the MWC. "Best the Mountain West?" "Show your chest in the Mtn West?" "Beat the rest in the Mtn West?" I don't know.

Here's a cheesey one for the MWC

"On a quest to destroy the Mtn West"

If BSU were to get left out of this whole discussion

What awesome motivation to run the table and win a National Title this year.

That

That would be great in light of the dangers of super conferences being formed and making it impossible for non-AQ teams to get a shot.

If

super conferences form and BSU is left out then this is the year-2010-for the Broncos to run the table and get that National Title shot b/c all this realignment crap will really happen in 2011 and 2012 least that's what I'm reading.

PAC - 11

The Big Ten hasn't had 10 teams for a while now. Now they'll have 12 with Nebraska. Everyone still calls it the Big Ten.

I wonder how well Dan Beebe is sleeping these days.

Mtn West is Smokin' Something GOOD

The MWC is out fo their mind if they think they will get Kansas, etc.

The Texas legislature may force the Texas schools to stay together. If this happens, then the B12 will rob the MWC to backfill for the loss of Colorado & Nebraska, and, the PAC10 will add Utah to make the PAC12. The B12 may take up to 6 schools to make their own mega conference. The schools on the B12 pick list would be TCU, BYU, AFC, Houston, SMU and possibly BSU. If the B12 falls apart, the PAC10 will get Texas, T-Tech, OK, OK State and maybe TX A&M (A&M may opt for the SEC). If the PAC10 does not get A&M, they will take Utah to make their 16 team conference. When all of this happens, Kansas, K-State, etc. will look to the Big East because of their basketball strength and since they are a BCS conference.

Under any of these scenarios, the MWC isn't getting any of the B12 leftovers and will lose several, if not all, of their top schools, and may not have BSU available either. Whatever is left in the MWC will end up raiding the WAC to get back to 8-9-10 teams, or may merge with the WAC.

This is THE reality!

The Best Explanation IMO so far belongs to Farmerjohn

It's all speculation anyway and there are blogs and inside information that leads the gullible reader in many different directions, but if I were handicapping this mess I think Farmerjohn's explanation is pretty close to the way this will shake out.

Good rationale but...

...as was pointed out on ESPN, football is money engine, not basketball; so Kansas may have to play along with whereever they can earn the most money from fooball revenue. Just a comment I heard earlier.

BSU TO THE PAC 12. NORTHERN

BSU TO THE PAC 12. NORTHERN DIVISION.

REMEMBER THE OLD WAC?

No way

BSU as better odds to the great nortwest conference than the PAC-12.
At least in that conference they would not be the worst in academics in the group.

BSU is good team football at D1 with JC academics.

And you are a

liar or an idiot. Your claim of JC academics shows you have no real knowledge of Boise State, and especially are ignorant of the upgrades over the last few years. Meanwhile, your Vandals just lost how many scholarships because of academic shortcomings?

I am not a Vandal

I am a PAC-10 alumni and Fan

Look up at USNAWR college and university rankings. You BSU are below Western Washington. Your equals are CWU and EWU.

You can talk all you want about any upgrades the last week years, but YES the Vandals are ranked way ahead you as a school of higher education. You might beat them on the football field but they are a National Ranked University.

Not just a regional college like BSU.