Mountain West decision won't come until June; Bleymaier talks about conference expansion, athletics budget, scheduling

By Chadd Cripe
ccripe@idahostatesman.com
© 2010 Idaho Statesman

Mountain West mania struck again Friday with comments from ESPN’s Joe Schad that two sources told him Boise State likely would receive an invite this summer and an unsourced report out of Fresno, Calif., calling it a done deal.

All of that reporting is speculation based on what the Mountain West board of directors (the school presidents) might do when they meet June 6-8 in Jackson, Wyo.

The board of directors makes the final decision. Seven must vote in favor of inviting Boise State to issue an invitation.

The Mountain West Joint Council — athletic administrators and faculty athletic representatives — met May 2-5. Expansion was not on the agenda, Mountain West spokesman Javan Hedlund said, but could have been discussed informally among the athletic directors.

The Mountain West hasn’t set the agenda for the board of directors meeting yet. Any invitation likely would come from that meeting because the league needs to add Boise State by July 1 to count the Broncos’ accomplishments toward eligibility for a Bowl Championship Series at-large berth during the 2012 and 2013 seasons.

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Boise State athletic director Gene Bleymaier said Friday that he doesn’t expect the Broncos to get left on the outside looking in when the expected wave of conference realignments happen.

“If we keep doing what we’re doing, they’re not going to be able to leave us out,” he said. “Not when we’re having the success we’re having. Last year, we were a top-50 program in the nation (in the Learfield Sports Directors’ Cup). We have a chance of being close to that again this year. We just need to continue to excel and do everything we can do to grow and get better.”

Bleymaier doesn’t think Boise State needs to lobby anyone at this point. There is some speculation that they will be invited next month to join the Mountain West Conference in 2011-12.

“All we can do is excel athletically and academically,” he said. “That’s the most anybody can do. The WAC obviously is monitoring the situation. We will all continue to do so and react accordingly. We’re not going to be the ones to initiate change.”

The WAC on Friday said that Boise State needs to notify the league by July 1 if it wants to leave in 2011. That’s different than the date league officials previously provided and different from what’s in the code book on the WAC’s website.

Other items of interest from Bleymaier:

— He doesn’t expect the WAC presidents to make it more difficult for teams to leave the conference when they meet next month. Currently, a departing team forfeits its share of conference revenues in its final year.

— His take on conference expansion: “If the Big Ten goes to 16 teams, I think it’s going to be a major overhaul.”

— He expects the athletic department budget to “grow a little” this year because of salary increases and rising scholarship costs. Last year, he had to cut the budget and make layoffs.

“We’re tightening our belts … and trying to do things more cost-effectively,” he said.

— He’s hopeful Boise State will win the WAC’s Commissioner’s Cup. The Broncos have been boosted by surprising successes from the women’s soccer, swimming and diving and softball teams. They’re in first with four sports to go.

“It’s been a very good year for the athletic department,” he said.

— Yesterday, Bleymaier said that no Pac-10 school is willing to pay the kind of money he wanted for the 2011 non-conference road game. Mississippi will pay Boise State $900,000. Boise State is getting $1.25 million for this year’s game against Virginia Tech in Landover, Md.

Bleymaier also said he continues to ask the six southern Pac-10 schools for home-and-home deals but the interest hasn’t been mutual. None of the six have played at Bronco Stadium.

— There is some thought that Boise State can use its notoriety to land major non-conference games. Mississippi, for example, expects to sell out next year’s game and ESPN made it clear that the game would be on national TV.

“It’s a big help,” Bleymaier said.

— Boise State and Mississippi didn’t discuss a two-for-one arrangement like the Rebels have with Fresno State (games in Oxford in 2010 and 2015, game in Fresno in 2011), Bleymaier said. Both schools were focused on filling a single opening in 2011, he said.

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Variety

Better make sure we get a basketball program! Don't wait 5-8 years for progress there! Besides football, we have a pretty good wrestling and tennis programs, just need to be well rounded, academics included!

Basketball program

New Coach who knows what it takes to win, expansion to basketball lockerrooms/offices. I think winning is around the corner for the Broncos.

It's not happening, at least until after 2018...

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ESPN has basically all but confirmed BSU joining the MWC

I'm sure they're keeping a close eye on this considering that the move would basically take BSU off of ESPN programming

MWC and ESPN

The MWC has a pitiful contract with somebody or another that fans holler about regularly. I too would like to watch some Utah and BYU games but can't seem to find them anywhere. If BSU moved into that questionable agreement would it enhance our cache' or diminish it? I would like to see someone look into it.

MWC TV

From what I understand the MWC contract is up with the horrible TV broadcast system they use either this or next year. I agree if we do get the invite to the MWC, we should demand that ESPN still has rights to cover our games (even though they are a pain sometimes). Not only does it help us with recruiting, getting our name known and other perks, we have great fans all over the nation (even the world) that count on ESPN to see our games. However if we turn it down because of the ESPN contract loss we will be known as the team that ran away from a stronger SOS. Sometimes ya just can't win.

please

espn controlls nothinf go bronco nation stay in the wac like wacky

please

espn controlls nothinf go bronco nation stay in the wac like wacky

He gets to make sense some today!

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Weisberg, back on your medication- NOW.

I think you were taking it for him? CO-OP

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And I'm certain you have a date with Jenna Jameson.

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Basketball Improvements

For everyone who reads these comments

Myself and a few other students met with Coach Rice yesterday in order to energize student ivolvement at the basketball games. I tell you what, we got a winner here folks. This guy brings enthusiam, confidence, and a winning attitude that this program has been lacking for so many years. Get out this next year for the basketball program. Were gonna have a fun team to watch.

Coach Rice is for real, and

Coach Rice is for real, and he will turn the program into a legitimate basketball program in a short time. He's not afraid to schedule legit road games like the previous staff, and he's a real recuiter unlike the previous head coach. It's night and day what Gene Bleymeir has hired this time around.

For Real?

That is what a lot of people have said about recent coaches and what did we get? The ONLY thing that matters is wins. If Rice doesn't put some W's on the board he won't last either. The fans are sick of loosing in BB and have little tolerance for another looser.

a loser of a basketball

a loser of a basketball program get a new ad

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this character wants to stay in the wac remember when he was the tutor for ucla nobody will lobby for bronco nation

Mountain West

BSU-Don't Go!
PAC-12 OR NOTHING!
I'm a two-time Bronco. The MWC brings nothing to the table. Looking forward to Oregon State this fall.

oregon sr

bronco nation nerds you will lose nerds

MWC - STAY AWAY

Have to agree that moving to the MWC is not good for BSU. It's a lateral move at best. And with the TV contract they are in (which was renewed last year) the Bronco Nation would get to see few of the away games. We would lose the ESPN national coverage. The only thing we would get is the conference games against Utah, BYU and TCU. And if those programs continue as they have in the recent past, how long do you think they will stay in the MWC? We need to move up a notch in the conferences, not sideways.

Chad, You Need To Get Joe Schad on the Phone

See if his two sources were other than the television sports reporter and the radio DJ. As for those of you who are against joining the Mountain West, get a grip. If BSU doesn't go, Fresno and Nevada most certainly will. And guess what that means? The death of the WAC, and BSU floundering without a conference affiliation.

what?

Dude, if the MWC doesn't even want BSU what makes you think they'd take Fresno and/or Nevada?

The MWC would be a bad move for BSU with one exception. If Big Ten expansion means the end of the Big East conference, then the BCS would be without one of it's conferences, therefore, one would think that the MWC could end up taking the Big East's place in the BCS and if that were to happen, then yes, it would be a good move for BSU , but leaving the WAC for a BCSless MWC is a bad move, especially considering that we'd more than likley lose out on ESPN coverage/support

BK

I think what he is saying is that If we go MWC AND THEN some teams leave that we could replace 1 or 2 teams with top teams from the WAC, It makes sense, like if TCU and UNLV leave then Nevada and fresno aren't that much different to bring in. While it is not the ideal, because we all agree the ideal is a BCS conf, Haveing a conference with the top teams from the two conferences is not a horrible thing... by the time all of that would play out we would be talking about entirely new tv contracts anyway. But having BSU on ESPN a little less might help game attendance anyway. Anyway it shakes out it is better than the current conference makeup But it is a gamble that has enormous upside that you wont know until you pull the trigger.

I agree with ya that it's a gamble

but the MWC is far from being BSU's ideal situation and in fact, I don't believe that there is an ideal situation for the Broncos with the expection of being invited into the Big Ten, or whatever the conference will be called once the dust settles.

I do find it very odd that expansion wasn't discussed in the MWC meetings provided that Big Ten expansion chatter is such a hot topic these days, and so much so, that the SEC is beginning to respond with expansion chatter of it's own. Therefore, if I were Gene Bleymaier, and thank goodness I'm not, I would have serious reservations of jumping into a conference that is demonstrating such limited vision in a football world that is about to undergo major changes.

I still think that BSU's best option would be to apply to the NCAA for independent status, but as stated above, I don't think there is an ideal situation for BSU

"Major non-conference games

"Major non-conference games such as Mississippi"!?

Since when did Mississippi become "major" at anything? Now, if he had been talking about Florida, Alabama, or Georgia I may agree.

Thanks For Your Input, Jocstrap

And for once again failing to add any value whatsoever to a perfectly good discussion. If you're craving for attention so much, just ask next time.

How good can the MWC actually be

when at least Utah is likely to go PAC-10 and possibly BYU as well?

There's JocDoc

Had to pipe in with a little dose of Hatoraide did ya.

I like the move

It shows future thinking. It is a gamble though, the last thing we would want is the MWC to be decimated in a couple of years and someone not take BSU, but that is a lot of ifs. BSU might be taken by a BCS, Heck MWC could be a BCS in '12. A TCU could jump and it wouldnt matter that much. Or nothing could happen. Any way it makes sense long term to move.
As a bronco fan it is worth it just to make UI play at bronco stadium on our terms as a "warm up game every couple of years. Bye Bye kibbie.
Natural rivals of BYU, Utah, Wyoming, TCU, heck even if two of those teams stayed it would be great to have the other teams in Bronco staduim. Air force is rumored to be the only holdout vote.

A gamble worth taking

I like the move. All the speculation about future moves by some of the other MWC teams are just that. With BSU, an opportunity to shop the TV rights in the near future, and the possible (likely) BCS designation I see a lot of upside. With the BCS nod being key, I could see the TCU's, Utah's and BYU's staying right where they are and saying the extra money is what we needed to make the MWC a legitimate perennial BCS powerhouse. It is already on par with the ACC and Big East. For the rest of the leagues we would need to do it the old fashioned way, work for it. The extra money is the tool you need to do exactly that.

Go Broncos

TV deals can be changed. The MWC deal with Versus is over after another year. The move to the MWC is a step up and would improve the quality of the conference, get the conference in the BCS AQ. That would give BYU and Utah less reason to leave for the Big Ten, assuming that's offered to them.

BSU to MWC

For Boise State to accept an offer from the MWC it must be sure the MWC is getting an invite to the BCS which may mean dropping New Mexico or San Diego State. It must fulfill all three catagories for the invitation and not just two and hope for an exemption. I doubt that the university presidents are going to want to divide the money by seven rather than six. If the MWC becomes an AQ conference, I don't see Utah or TCU jumping to another conference.

Versus is owned by Comcast... Comcast owns The Mtn Network

or rather The Mtn is jointly owned my Comcast and CBS College Sports Network.
All together The Mtn has 19 cable providers and 1 satellite provider.

Four years ago the MWC elected to discontinue affiliation with ESPN due to a conflict over game schedules and financial compensation, therefore, if BSU does elect to go to the MWC, if invited, BSU can say goodbye to nationally televised games on ESPN

I repeat myself

Non-conference road contests fall under the television contract of the respective opponents' conference agreements, and all preseason tournaments on the road or at neutral sites are owned by the organization sponsoring the event.

Again, Ol' Miss would still be on ESPN.

I know

but if BSU were to join the MWC, it "could" void the contract that ESPN has with the WAC, meaning that ESPN wouldn't carry the Ole Miss game, especially given tHE bad blood between The Mtn and ESPN.

we're simply arguing hypotheticals...no need to get your undies in a wad over it

The stop changing panty's

First you posted:

"if invited, BSU can say goodbye to nationally televised games on ESPN"
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Then you post:

but if BSU were to join the MWC, it "could" void the contract that ESPN has with the WAC
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hypothetical I can deal with, hypocritical is a little tougher.

no condradiction on my end just miscomprehension on yours

How about this, I'll simply butt those two quotes together and make it easier for you to comprehend

(if invited, and BSU were to join the MWC, it could void the contract that ESPN has with the WAC as such BSU could say goodbye to nationally televised games on ESPN)

As stated earlier

"I still think that BSU's best option would be to apply to the NCAA for independent status, but as stated above, I don't think there is an ideal situation for BSU"

That being said, let me explain what I meant by the following quote-
"if BSU were to join the MWC, it "could" void the contract that ESPN has with the WAC, meaning that ESPN wouldn't carry the Ole Miss game, especially given tHE bad blood between The Mtn and ESPN"

First of all, and I do want to be clear in that BSU's departure from the WAC would not, in any way shape of form, "void" the contract that the WAC has with ESPN. what I was getting at, and poorly communicated, was that *if* BSU were to leave the WAC and go to the MWC, ESPN would have no contractual obligation to carry ANY of BSU's games because BSU would no longer fall under the contractual agreement terms that the WAC has with ESPN. There! I hope that made more sense and try to keep in mind that you're arguing about a hypothetical situation...no need to get your undies in a wad over it

If the panties fit, comfortable?

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Plus

If the other teams did leave we could cherry pick the WAC for Fresno and Nevada. Then the WAC could raid the Big sky for UM and MSU. Montana would win a BSUless wac the first year they were in it.

Yes !!!!!!!!

...and kick the vanals hind end end by 30 in the kibble dome. No problem.

Yes !!!!!!!!

...and kick the vanals hind end end by 30 in the kibble dome. No problem.

You guys are missing the point.

While the coverage for teams in the MWC is not good, it is better now than when it started. Not only are they on cable, but the MTN is on Direct TV and the games on versus and CBS-C are on both sattellite networks. Is it ESPN, no, but the MWC teams make three times the TV revenue that WAC teams make, and that is the issue. ESPN has been screwing western conference teams forever. Also I wouldn't hold your breath for a PAC invite. They are all about Research Universities. Utah is rated about 50th, BYU is not on the map. That's one reason they aren't getting an invite. BSU isn't there as a research institution.

¿El punto? ¿Quizás usted está faltando el resto del cuchillo?

El mi mecanografiar hace que mi español sale divertido.

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Also

BYU would have to play on Sundays in some sports, and we all know THAT aint going to happen. Just sayin.

BSU needs ESPN more than it needs a MWC invite

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

It cries, "Help! I've fallen and I can't call ESPN"!

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I agree ESPN is

important. But ESPN doesnt contract with BSU it contracts with conferences. And it is free to do so with a revamped MWC. Do you really think there is no way for ESPN to get out of its wac contract with BSU gone? talk about unwatchable TV. Even more so if you want to talk about money in this is the fact of how damaged BSU would be if it were an independant. We couldnt afford to have a program. I thought we had been over this before and reached a consensus that while pulling a Notre Dame is enviable, it is impossible from the business standpoint for BSu and would be the death of football in boise.