By Chadd Cripe
ccripe@idahostatesman.com
© 2010 Idaho Statesman
Mel Kiper Jr. said Thursday on SportsCenter that former Boise State cornerback Kyle Wilson has moved up to No. 2 on the draft board at his position and could go in the bottom third of the first round.
Kiper singled out the New York Jets and Minnesota Vikings as possible first-round destinations for Wilson. They pick 29th and 30th.
Wilson debuted today at No. 23 on Kiper's famed Big Board. He is No. 27 on the Scouts Inc. list.
Former Idaho offensive guard Mike Iupati is No. 17 on the Scouts Inc. list.
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ESPN will have a Labor Day doubleheader this year. The first game is Maryland-Navy at the Baltimore Ravens’ stadium, followed by Boise State-Virginia Tech at the Washington Redskins’ stadium.
Seems like odd scheduling since the games might compete for casual fans in the Washington-Baltimore market.
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It was a newsy signing day at Boise State, so I ended up with quite a few leftover nuggets …
Defensive backs coach Marcel Yates has coordinator aspirations but isn’t in a hurry to make that happen. Yates, 32, understood coach Chris Petersen’s decision to hire line coach Pete Kwiatkowski to replace Justin Wilcox as defensive coordinator.
After all, Kwiatkowski gave Yates his first college job when Kwiatkowski was the coordinator at Montana State.
“I’m in no hurry for that stress level, so I’m being patient,” Yates said. “… It just gives me two, three, four, five more years to get my feet wet and learn under his tutelage.”
Yates has repeatedly spurned interest in him from Bowl Championship Series-conference schools to stay at his alma mater. He is tight with the players in his position group and those he has recruited out of Los Angeles, his hometown.
“I love my guys,” Yates said. “We have a close group. … It’s getting tougher and tougher the longer I’m here to leave these guys because they’re counting on me to be here.”
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Petersen expects some changes to the defense under Kwiatkowski.
“That’s part of being who we are,” he said. “… Change done right … can be for our benefit.”
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The Broncos’ 10-man signing class, the smallest in the nation, gave coaches little flexibility when they received calls saying some players had become available late in the process.
“Was it painful to say, ‘Sorry’?” Petersen said. “Yeah.”
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One of the Broncos’ main goals for the next six months has nothing to do with football skills.
“One of our No. 1 things that we’ve got to get done here in the offseason is get healthy,” Petersen said. “So some guys will probably miss spring football. The goal for most of our team is to get our team healthy by summer.”
The Broncos had a strange run of torn ACLs and broken ankles last season. Among the players not expected to participate fully in spring ball are offensive lineman Cory Yriarte, tailback D.J. Harper, linebacker Daron Mackey and tailback Matt Kaiserman. Petersen does expect wide receiver Austin Pettis to practice.
Spring ball begins March 8.
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Petersen, on whether having a coach go from Boise State to Tennessee would help him attract job candidates:
“I don’t think going to the SEC from Boise State is attractive, but that’s me,” he said.
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Petersen, on the Labor Day opener against Virginia Tech:
“What a heck of a field trip for kids,” he said. “Let’s make it one big Bronco field trip.”
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Wilcox, on the job security he felt at Boise State:
“The security at Boise State is probably in the .05 percentile of college football and I’m well aware of that,” he said. “I never took that for granted. I felt like all of us coached like our job was on the line.”
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Wide receiver Matt Miller of Helena, Mont., chose Boise State over offers from North Carolina, Arkansas, Arizona State, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington State, Northwestern and the Ivy League, said Pat Murphy, who coached Miller at Capital High in Helena.
Among the coaches who visited were Arkansas’ Bobby Petrino and Stanford’s Jim Harbaugh.
“A lot of famous coaches came through,” Murphy said. “I think our secretary thought it was the neatest.”
The Broncos were early arrivals in the Miller sweepstakes because assistant coaches Brent Pease and Jeff Choate have strong ties to the state, Murphy said.
“Proximity, I think, was a big draw,” Murphy said of Miller’s choice. “And playing on TV so much.”
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I don’t normally put much stock in recruiting rankings anyway, but the way the services handled Boise State this year was ridiculous. The Broncos’ class was ranked No. 96 by Scout.com and No. 82 by Rivals.com.
The ratings put heavy weight on the number of recruits signed, so the Broncos were penalized for having the nation’s smallest class.
Two of the big winners on signing day, according to those rankings, were BYU and Utah. That’s interesting because those players will be hitting their stride just in time for upcoming games between BYU and Boise State (2012-15) and Utah and Boise State (2011-13). Utah finished No. 32 at rivals.com; BYU was No. 22 at scout.com.
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“Proximity, I think, was a big draw,” Murphy said of Miller’s choice. “And playing on TV so much.”
Which would not happen if BSU left the WAC to join the MWC.
Miller and Petrino
Arkansas coach Bobby Petrino is from Helena and went to the same high school as Miller. Petrino got a trip home out of the official visit on the dime of the school. That's why Petrino went and not some assistant coach. Not that Miller didn't rate a visit from a head coach, but just so everyone knows Petrino may not have gone just to recruit Miller.
Cripe
Great job on this piece and everything you've done the last few weeks. You have been almost as impressive as our team and you deserve some serious praise from Bronco Nation for a damn fine job.
Go easy on the "props" for Cripe!
......but I agree with you JLandon. Just remember, don't heap a whole lot of praise on the poor "Coug" Cripe! He's still hiding in Bleymaier's back pocket. I think we also need to remind Cripe that his alma mater's football team (WSU) was rated as one of the WORST in the nation. In fact, they may have actually won that honor! Can you say "Big Sky" conference Cripe?
Recruit video
Hey Chad, do you know if you guys are going to post any video of the new recruits this year? I've always enjoyed watching the highlights you post on here in the past. Keep up the good work!
yep...
..excellent point slcbronco on the wac vs mwc tv coverage.
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recruiting class rankings are a total joke..always have been..always will be. but the media and fans need something to blab about in this internet age.
Go Yates
How many defensive backs have been drafted since Yates has been on? Almost every year a DB is taken in the draft... Gerald Alexander, Scandrick, and now Wilson... he develops players to make it in the NFL... give him a raise or we'll lose him!!
Yates..
Absolutely agree. He's had more than just BCS Conference teams after him. The Seahawks came calling bout a year ago as well. We need to lock Marcel up because he is a very hot coaching commodity.
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low level recruit go broncos
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you are one
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kiper what are you smoking get real applying for a job with bronco nation
weisberg, crack quit smoking it
Let's all post like weisberg.
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weisberg, stop smoking bananas
coaches
do they bronco nation have a colored coaxhes
nerd
learn how to spell any colored coaches
nerd
learn how to spell any colored coaches
I agree with Cripe on recruiting rankings! Yikes!
I must say that I agree with Cripe about the recruiting ratings. I guess they must have some sort of gauge -- but the disparity in the various ratings is concerning. Ioane was rated a "40" (zero stars) on the ESPN service while most of the others had him as a high (5.6 rating with 5.8 being a four-star) three-star player. What's up with that?
If you look at USC -- which every ratings outfit is alway slobbering about how great they recruited -- you'll find that over the past five years they have 'averaged' 4.02 stars (stars per recruit) on most ratings. That includes 20 FIVE-STAR and 57 FOUR-STAR players in that five year span. Now, consider that BSU had ONE four-star player (Childs) in their history as a D-I program -- until yesterday when they also signed Crawford who was listed as a four-star by most.
BSU 'averaged' a 2.31 stars per recruit over that same five year period (2005 through 2009). Where did USC end up last year? Am I making my point yet?
Out of last years top 10 BEFORE the bowl games here were the averages per those ten teams: 1. Florida 3.79, 2. Ohio St. 3.70, 3. Texas 3.66, 4. Alabama 3.46, 5. Oregon 3.00, 6. Iowa 2.77, 7. Georgia Tech 2.73, 8. TCU 2.56, 9. BSU 2.31 and #10 Cincy 2.20. Note: USC who was number one at 4.02 and Notre Dame who was number 4 at 3.55 (overall with top 10 rankings NOT considered) did not play in a BCS bowl game. So.....how does a BSU end up undefeated and ranked number 4 in the nation (when it's all said and done) when they are so low on the 'ratings' averages?? Is it not the QUALITY of the character and potential of the athlete that really matters most? BSU has done one hell of a job of recruiting those players that not only have solid character but also have the talent to IMPROVE with GREAT coaching. Just look at BSU's roster. How many ZERO star players are on it? How many start? MANY!!
So much for recruiting ratings! Nice blurb Cripe. I agree!
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108 in the country nerds
yes you are low level
number four in the country....nerd
Why do you always call people "nerds"?
Technically, anybody that spends most of their time on their computer, chatting in forums.....is a nerd. You, sir, would also qualify. So, what's the point?
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you're making me sleepy, maybe i'l take a nap. night night...
BSU uses what they have
I've mentioned in other forums that Boise State doesn't have the luxury of getting high recruits. Yet, they always seem to get the most out of the recruits they DO get.
It's easy for Florida and Texas to be always in the Top 5 of national rankings, considering they always recruit EXTREMELY well.
Boise State recruits like one would imagine for any non-AQ, little university. Yet, they always seem to manage good seasons. In the last 10 yrs, they've EARNED 2 Fiesta Bowl wins, several conference titles, a decent W-L record (considering their size and fanbase) against AQ teams, and a sort-of cult following.
Not bad for a team full of 1- & 2- star players.
yes they do nerd
coach peter does a good job with low level recruits
What is Wilcox talking about?
Wilcox, on the job security he felt at Boise State:
“I felt like all of us coached like our job was on the line.”
What? The only people not currently employed by the Athletic Department at Boise State had left of their own free will. Nobody was fired. Nobody was asked to resign. What the hell is he talking about?
Relax RMSanford!! Read it again!
...geez. Cut the guy some slack. He was saying that at BSU there was GREAT JOB SECURITY -- BUT -- they coached like there job was on the line. Or in other words, EVEN THOUGH THE JOB SECURITY IS GREAT, WE DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED!
“The security at Boise State is probably in the .05 percentile of college football and I’m well aware of that,” he said. “I never took that for granted. I felt like all of us coached like our job was on the line.”
Um, that's not what he said
If job security was good, it would be closer to 100% than 1%. He says it's "in the .05%". Basically, he's saying job security at Boise State sucks.
Um, here's the Cliffsnotes version of what JW said
"The security at Boise State is probably in the .05 percentile of college football and I’m well aware of that,”
By that, he meant that coaches don't get fired from Boise State. Period!
“I never took that for granted. I felt like all of us coached like our job was on the line.”
By this he meant that, even though he was fully aware that his job was never on the line, he never took his job for granted either, and as a result of that comfort level and job security, he and the other coaches, coached "as if" their jobs were on the line.
Hey Sanford, how many football coaches have been fired from their positions at BSU? Do you get what he was saying now? I hope so
Obviously you don't understand a damn thing about mathematics
His statement about the .05 percentile is on the low end. The low end of what? Job security. You cannot intelligently deduce that he meant the job security is good, unless your grasp of math is low.
Did you even read my first post? My statement about Boise State coaches not being fired was exactly the point. How can he claim the job security was bad and that everyone coached like their jobs were on the line if nobody has ever been fired.
Apparently, I'm the only intellectual here who DOES get exactly what he's saying. If you don't I suggest a Middle School Math class to bring yourself up to speed.
Come on Sanford!
Dude, look at the whole thing Wilcox said. It wouldn't make any sense if he were saying that the percentile was on the low end. I know that it should mean that. But he obviously meant that as the top .05 percentile. He should have worded it differently (the 95.5 percentile) but it's obvious what he meant. He wouldn't have followed that up with 'I never took that for granted' if he'd meant he thought his job was on the line. Come on dude. Just cause you want to get angry at him for leaving, don't be dumb. And no matter how much we as Bronco fans may want to get mad at him for leaving, he just took a job that will pay him 3 times as much at one of the greatest football schools of all time. Can't blame a guy for that. Comparing this move to Dan Hawkins going to Colorado is stupid. Wish Justin the best of luck in his future. Unless he plays Boise State! Go Broncos!
I'll agree (but just a little bit)
If he "meant" job security was good, he was stupid in his word choice. Next time, he should know exactly what he's talking about. Then again, his comment about his job being on the line supports the notion that job security was poor. If job security is good, nobody's job would be on the line, would it?
But, alas, I'm only going based on what people actually say and not what they meant. It's not my job to pull a person's intentions out of thin air. It's their job to express themselves intellegently.
Am I mad he's leaving? No, but a little disappointed. He had a great opportunity this next season at Boise State. His acheivement opportunities at Tennessee are nil. If Wilcox stayed and Boise State runs the gambit again in 2010, what praises will people say about him? A lot! Yet, at Tennessee? Nothing because "it's the SEC, it's expected".
What does Tennessee offer? More prestige? Yes. More pay? Definitely. A chance to prove something to naysayers? Hell, NO!
If you're so smart, why couldn't you figure out what he meant?
I bet if someone shoved a mic and a camera in your face and asked you a question, you might err as well, no?
and yes, it very well may be one's responsibilty to express themselves intellegently. Likewise, it should also be ones responsibility to possess basic reading comprehension skills, which evidently you lack.
Anyway, by him going to Tennessee, he has the opportunity to coach real college football, as opposed to the alternate football universe known as the Western Athletic Conference, and in doing so, instead of road tripping to the "Kibbie Dome", he gets to road trip to "The Swamp" and other high profile venues, but more importantly he'll get to play football chess against the best offensive coordinators in all of college football, and as far as opportunity and acheivement goes, well...evidently you don't know diddly squat about Tennessee football and SEC football
You said it better than I did BroncoKid ...
...exactly what I was expressing in the earlier post. Well done.
Viesenlooser
Stop smoikien cracken.
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get a kife low level rectuits any negro coaches
wilson
will not be dratid playes lik a gangstar
geeez weisberg
youre a load your mother shoulda swallowed.
rude
get a life nerd
Weisenahole
hunches small farm animals
dump the MWC idea
SLC Bronco-----you are dead right on about MWC tv deal killing BSU recruiting. I got to watch TCU 1 time this year.
cant handle the truth weisberg?
get off your meth loser...and back on your meds..
Weisenahole
can't find his meds...traded them for sex with his mother to her pimp
With the 4 or 5 star,
comes the 4 or 5 star attitude more often then not. You guys have all heard about finding the guys who fit the Bronco way of doing things. If your that full of yourself, that makes you that much more difficult to coach. Stop and think about it in those terms, and it all seems logical. Less ego = less problems and more success.
True Blue .... I agree
.....some of these five-star guys are from the wrong side of the street as far as 'character' is concerned. At places like USC, etc. those schools almost have to buy the damn five-star kid his own 7-11 so if he robs it, he won't get arrested.
The egos and the trash some of them pack around is not worth the stars.
Saying that really isn't fair
Some kids have had to bust their butt to get to where they are and others have had things handed to them, and a good work ethic is a good work ethic no matter where you come from. Heck, I've dealt with kids, who as you put it, are from the wrong side of the street, as well as rich kids who have had everything handed to them, and I can honestly tell you that the difference between the two has very little to do with where they came from, and that it has everything to do with how appreciative they are at the opportunity that they've been given.
USC has some fine outstanding kids in their program as do most programs out there, and sure, every tree has it's fair share of rotten apples and luckily, BSU has always done a good job at picking good apples
Kid - you are so naive - BSU is not squeaky clean
TheBroncoKid sez: " . . . BSU has always done a good job at picking good apples."
So, Tony Hilde was an example of a 'good apple' and how BSU has ALWAYS done a good job at picking them?
Be careful with the word 'always', as it leaves you open in a debate - with no 'wriggle room'. You get locked into a finite position. It would have been better to say, " . . . BSU has always done a good job at trying to pick good apples . . . " or, " . . . BSU has mostly done a good job at picking good apples . . . "
Maybe Tony's proclivity for stealing BSU parking passes from the inside of parked cars at BSU parking lots, and reselling them to his friends, was before your time?
Oh yes, and lets not mention Broncos driving cars fast during the summer and racing other cars and what happens when someone gets killed as a result. Or even get into any drug or theft related stuff.
I believe it fair to say that all college football programs have their share of bad apples and BSU is no different. To say that BSU has always done a good job at picking good apples, is somewhat laughable; as I would readily agree that if I heard that all Vandal football players are gentlemen and scholars, that would also be laughable.
It's okay to be honest about this stuff. One can be a true fan of any college football team, and still be objective enough to realize that his/her team is not perfect. And BSU ain't either.
I said every tree has it's fair share of rotten apples
and then followed that up with "BSU has always done a good job at picking good apples"
Now sure, if you want to play the part of grammer cop, then go ahead and bust my balls, but I'm sure that the majority of readers who bothered reading my post, were able to understand the point that I was trying to convey.
As far as Hilde's little lapse of judgement goes, well, it was kinda funny looking back on it, and with Cam Hall, well, IMO he got a bad wrap, due to an unfortunate crash. The Perfect's had amphetamines in their system, but they were also Mormon, so who better to place blame on, than a young hot shot football player? Anyway the sight line right there at that stop sign looking North is agood 1/2 mile or so and Mr Perfect had he of been sober, shouln't have pulled out in front of the guy who actually hit him, which wasn't Cam Hall Cam was charged with leaving the scene of an accident. and then there's Ryan Dinwiddie, who was found passed out behind teh wheel of his car at a traffic light.
So yeah, aside from those 3 incidents, BSU football has been pretty clean and especially when compared to other programs
Kid - wasn't ball busting - I apoligize if it appeared that way
Wasn't trying to bust your balls for grammar.
The way I interpreted your post was that I thought you wre saying how lilly white the BSU players were and how BSU coaches only recruit the 'good ones'. Guess I didn't get your drift.
Also, I was trying to point out that any college football coaching staff basically recruit players, they really know little about, except for football skills and game tapes and a few meetings with the player's immediate family members and coaches, if even that.
Every college football program, regardless of the divisional level, will always get a few bad apples who will manifest their criminal proclivities sometime during their college football experience.
I honestly did not know about the Dinwiddie thing until I just read your recent post above. Is news to me - must have been out of the country when that happened?
I agree with you on the Cam Hall incident.
But I didn't think the Tony Hilde event very funny. As I understood it, he went around the BSU parking lot taking the hanging colored parking passes from the rear view mirrors of cars during Summer School, when it was hot and lots of windows were rolled down. Then he sold those passes to fellow students (many of which were Bronco fotball players) for money, as I remember reading in the Statesman. I also, remember a big stink being raised by the Idaho Bar Association (I will admit, mostly by Vandal members trying to get a 'gottcha' on the Broncos), at the time, where they sent a 'courtesy' letter to the BSU General Counsel's Office, reminding that office of the applicable parts of Idaho Criminal Code that applied to burglary of automobiles and breaking and entering into vehicles by means of reaching thru open windows and removing chattel. I found it curious that nothing serious happened about it at all, really. Had that event been perfromed by a nonfootball player and especially a nonstarting QB type player, I could imagine a felony arrest, arraignment, plea bargaining, copping a plea to a misedmeanor of disturbing the peace, sentencing, and 30 days of jail time and 200 hours of community service.