Can two non-BCS teams make the BCS?; Name the Score contest
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The L.A. Times’ Chris Dufresne says BCS haters should be careful what they wish for. This scenario would certainly make Boise State fans happy. (At least, it should.)
Dufresne is not alone in projecting two non-BCS teams (TCU and Boise State) to make one of college football’s five biggest bowl games. ESPN.com's bowl projections also forecast both teams in BCS games.
But I am not sold on it happening — not because both teams aren't deserving but because it would require a bowl to take a team that almost guarantees lower TV ratings.
Games with non-BCS teams have been among the lowest-rated BCS games each year. For example, Boise State-Oklahoma, a classic, drew fewer TV views than LSU-Notre Dame, a dud, in 2007.
WAC commissioner Karl Benson said the Fiesta Bowl has had two opportunities to select a WAC at-large team and has passed both times — in 1996 (BYU) and in 2008 (Boise State) — in favor of Penn State and Ohio State, respectively.
Why would it choose any differently this year?
“If Boise State goes undefeated, and TCU finishes ahead of Boise State, which will have gone undefeated in four of the last six years, I would think that they deserve an at-large spot,” Benson said earlier this week.
Still it is up to individual bowls, such as the Fiesta or Sugar, to make the decision to take Boise State. The BCS — which could use the selection of two non-BCS teams as political cover to keep Congress off its back — has no real power. It is simply a collection of bowls and conferences.
So it would be up to the bowl to take the Broncos — and I still think, especially in this economy, the bowls are going to take a team that (they believe) will draw more fans and higher television ratings.
• The WAC has hired a PR firm to help make the case for Boise State. Iowa is sending out informational e-mails to counter some of the arguments being made about its schedule. Some voters are making the case that Oregon’s loss to Boise State shouldn’t count as much as the Ducks’ victories against other teams.
Ah, it must be college football campaign season.
Wouldn’t it be great If all of this was decided on the field?
• This writer believes Louisiana Tech has been a disappointment this season. The Bulldogs are 3-5 (2-3 in the WAC). Louisiana Tech, however, is 3-0 at home and 0-5 on the road this season. The Bulldogs’ losses are at Auburn, Navy, Nevada, Utah State and Idaho.
In order to be eligible for a second consecutive bowl game, the Bulldogs need to win three of their four games, a tough task as the schedule include Boise State (home), LSU (away), Fresno State (away) and San Jose State (home). In order to secure a bowl berth, La. Tech probably needs to win all four.
Name the Score contest
OK, finally what everyone has been waiting for. The “Name the Score” contest is back. The winner gets a gift certificate to Domino’s. Thanks again to Treasure Valley-area Domino’s for their support.
Click here for my audio prediction.
Here are the rules for the newcomers:
Boise State visits Louisiana Tech on Friday night and here is your chance to predict the score and win a gift certificate from Domino's Pizza for one medium three-topping pizza.
Place your guesses in the comments down below and we will pick one winner.
The closest to the actual score of the game wins.
All entries must be received by 4 p.m. MT on Friday.
When you register to make comments at IdahoStatesman.com, you put in an e-mail address. I will contact the winner through that e-mail address.
If it comes down to tiebreakers, closest to Boise State's actual score, closest without going over and then first received will be the tie-breaking order.
Good luck.
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Brian Murphy is co-author of "Blue Magic: Boise State's Unlikely Journey to a Fiesta Bowl Win." You can click here to purchase the book.
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BSU 45 La Tech 7
BSU will lead throughout the game. Unfortunately LaTech will not have all of their offensive weapons to make this a close game.
wondering...
is there a specific reason why college football can't have a college basketball type single elimination tournament? this would seem to eliminate the TV ratings problem. in the first couple of rounds you can just show the more high profile type teams....then if an underdog makes it into later rounds there is no ratings hit....people like to watch underdogs take on the big schools. maybe I just need to know more about how the BCS came to be and why college football and basketball ended up so different in terms of championships.
BSU 51 LA Tech 17
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The Broncos 42 La Bulldogs 13
Broncos shake off the rust in Ruston.
BSU 34, LTU 17
The Bulldogs always play us tough in Ruston. Sleepy atmosphere, humidity, cockroaches...BSU tries to pound the rock all night. LTU gets two big plays, one on offense, one on defense, both of which will lead to TDs.
BSU 52 LA Tech 10
Yeah!
Can you say
Trap game? BSU looking to next week vs Ideeeho. La Tech 21 BSU 14. Spoiler alert.
or not ;-)
34-10 Broncos
No spoilers
Not even close
Boise State 48
LA Tech 14
BSU 63 LA TECH 9
Boo-ya
Dufresne is right
If the BCS keeps building up this case against themselves, they are going to have a fight. If BSU doesn't make it, more and more people are going start questioning the system. I think the BCS would like this problem out of their hair. If they take BSU, it can be appeased for another year, and they can say "hey, we took two Non BCS schools one year, we're fair" and then they REALLY have to hope that if not one, that both teams get hammered so they feel good about not doing it again. We'll see.
BSU 54-9
A little closer than the last two games
This'll be a little like the Fresno State game.
Broncos - 45
LATECH - 21
To live and die in LA
Its almost turkey time, and Kellen Moore will be worthy of the turducken.
Boise State 52
La Tech 13
I dont know what the score will be.................
All I know is that BSU NEEDS to get out of the WAC.
The only way BSU goes to the BCS---if TCU loses...........
Presently BSU getting a BCS WAC job
Taking a guess
BSU 42 LaTech 7 only because they are a very wounded team
Pizza..make mine with extra cheese please!
BOISE STATE 37 LA TECH 3 WHOOP WHOOP!!!
BSU 43 La Tech 16
Go Broncs
BSU 45 LAT 10
There is no question that the case for taking both TCU and BSU is a strong one and makes sense. However, money trumps that case. Neither TCU nor BSU would go to a BCS game if the BCS had not changed the rules to require that one non-BCS school must be in a bowl if ranked high enough.
Had that rule not changed, I think that two things would be nearly certain: no non-BCS team would see a BCS bowl and no non-BCS team would be ranked as high as TCU and BSU are ranked.
Calling the BCS the "Bowl Championship Series" is a misnomer - the only thing remotely resembling "championship" is the national championship game and even that is suspect because of the nature of determining the participants. There is no "series". A team that plays in one of the BCS bowl games really has no chance of being the "champion". Right now, the BCS is just a bunch of games that earn a ton of money for the participants.
It's telling that not only can the FCS (Division I-AA) can run a playoff system, but that the FBS (Division I-A), which includes the BCS is the only NCAA sanctioned sport that doesn't have a playoff system. I guess that the Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, ACC, SEC and Big East conferences are just too delicate to handle the rough and tumble of a four week playoff like the little guys do.
45 BSU 10 LaTech
LaTech always seems to be a hard place to play. Boise will wear them down in the 2nd half.
Another Blowout
BSU - 63
LaTech - 14
Another win
45-21 Broncos.
Not so far-fetched...
I hadn't thought two non-BCS teams was possible either, until I noticed that CBS Sports, ESPN, and Sports Illustrated are all predicting BSU in the Fiesta Bowl... either against Penn State, TCU, or Oklahoma State. Check it out. Also, factor in that BSU, TCU, and Oregon are the three most popular teams in the country right now from a fan-base perspective... maybe the folks in Glendale have the incentive they need after all.
actually
Given the article that is linked here, they disprove their own point. CBS, ESPN, Sports Illustrated, AP, LA Times, and the moon could all predict that Boise State goes to the Fiesta Bowl, because (LA Times' words) "they deserve it," and if that were true it would indeed give some merit to the BCS.
And since we know the BCS, we know that ain't gonna happen.
If Boise State is the #4 team in the country, so long as TCU is #3, Boise State will not be in the BCS games this year. They'll play a great game-- all sorts of bowls would love to have the #4 team playing in their town-- but BSU and the WAC will miss out on the big payday that comes with playing a BCS game.
I'm not one of those nut-jobs that believe it's a big conspiracy by the major conferences to keep all the money for themselves, but teams like USC are a guaranteed sell for the bowl games, with a century of tradition and a mobile fan base, and it's just too risky to place Boise State in one of those games.
Won't help the BCS Ranking
BSU 37
La Tech 13
Its a solid win "but they should have done more!" Blah!
Hello silly donkeys. No need
Hello silly donkeys. No need to worry about the bcs or being undefeated after Saturday.
La Tech 38
BSU 35
You are such a comedian
Theres no way the Broncos get beat by a team that your team needed a missed xtra point to beat, at home. Thanks for the laugh COT. Im sure you will ruffle some feathers.
Landon...
It appears to me that COT loves to ruffle feathers on here and that you are usually the one ruffled first. I can't side with COT on this one....LA too banged up to put up a good fight.......but I do believe next weekend the boys in blue will have their hands full.
BSU 38
LA Tech 10
Proud Donkey
Sometimes I wish we had a satiristic pet name for the Vandals' mascotte, but then I remember that their mascotte can't get any worse than it already is.
His Name Is Joe Vandal - Donkettes Swoon With His Mere Presence
jacaufield sez: "Sometimes I wish we had a satiristic pet name for the Vandals' mascotte, but then I remember that their mascotte can't get any worse than it already is."
Point # 1. Dude, When I read your post, I thought you made a spelling error when you mispelled 'mascot' the first time - but - I kept reading and you did it twice.
I can conclude nothing other that it was not a spelling error on your part, but a reflection of the level of your English grammar proficiency and/or the standard of education of the BSU English program. Pretty much par for the course for Bozo State alumni and/or fans.
I give you kudos, though. You got the period in the right place.
Point # 2. My prediction for the score is
BSU 54
La Tech 35
Point # 3. I don't believe two non-BCS teams will ever make the BCS - this year or ever. It's all about mega money and non-BCS teams just don't have the fan base to bring big buck to the bowl games. I would however, place BSU ahead of TCU due, to fact that BSU pummeled Oregon THIS year. The Donkos need to start getting a track record of sell-outs of Donko Stadium, if you guys ever want to be thought of as a Legitimate Nationally Recognized and Respected Football Program. A real national level football power program always has at least 2 symbiotic components: 1. the team and 2. a large loyal fan base. You have a great team, but your large loyal fan base sucks. Your fans are loyal as long as the Donkos are winning, while the Vandal fan base remains loyal to our team through thick and thin - and the Good Lord knows we have our thin years. The difference between the 2 fan bases is simple: after the season is over the Bozo State fans put away their blue and orange Donko Gear and go back to their jobs at Burger King, detailing cars, cleaning motel room, or whatever they do; while - the Vandal fans are reminded daily, throughout the off-season, by the framed graduation diplomas hanging in their offices and/or conference rooms, of their connection to and love for their alma matre.
Seems like
U are a cool dude but come on-your put down of BSU education is old. If you guys up north received such a great education at least your put downs could be original and well thought out, not just a copy of your big brothers from Frat A$&HOL*
bluephan - Still Friends?
bluephan:
You're right.
I stand corrected.
It is beneath my level to continually poke fun at the poor academic standards of BSU and shine the light of truth on that fact. I shall forever, cease and desist from doing it, and commit to you to have more original and well thought out put downs in the future.
I am ashamed of my prior comment. It was analogous to making fun of Special Olympians. It was in poor taste.
You're right. Thank you for caring enough to bring this matter to my attention
Just like a true ID grad
Thank you but still a little blah, hack, puke, hug the toilet and reach for the handle before my buddy finds me and takes a picture to put on facebook of Idaho drunks. Fell out a window lately?
Mispelled
I didn't mispell it - I'm fluent in French and used the spelling used in most languages (besides english). But you'd know that if you had gotten a more rounded education, and had laid off the booze while partying at Idaho.
Merde !!!!! A Frogman In My Bidet
jacaufield:
Tous direz bien de chouze ete trois?
Problem is Froggy - I lived in Europe many years and your fluency in French is only surpassed by one who is studied in Foreign Languages at the Ecole de Sorbonne - why that would be a Vandal of course !!!!!!
Sacre Bleu !!!!!!!
Oooops - almost forgot - promised bluephan I wouldn't make fun of Donkos and their intellectual inadequacies, anymore.
PS - Actually European languages, including French do not realy have a word for a 'mascot'. They pretty much refer to them as a 'muse' and not a 'mascotte'
Too-da-loo - I bid you adieu.
I
just wanted you to be original and that certainly was.
Paul Linde could've kicked your comedic butt anyway.
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wow
Even for me, that is really, really pompous. I'm floored. Sorry our language isn't good enough for you, that you have to prove to everyone how "worldly" you are with your language. Why don't you pick a different language for each word?
By the way, lest you paint me as some xenophobic redneck, I've lived several years in Europe, speak three languages fluently (including French), have a European wife and rarely speak English at home. On the other hand, I got a real education, one where I learned how to actually think instead of trying to prove how upper-crust I am by fitting 'baguette' into every sentence. If it seems you hit a nerve, you did- my degree is in Linguistics, and people like you make people like me look stupid.
Nothing like Fat Tuesday on Bourbon Street
Bonwell:
You said, ". . . people like you make people like me look stupid." Not sure what you meant by the 'me' and 'you' part. Who is which - unless of course the 'me' means 'Donkos' and the 'you' means Vandals. If you substitute those words for the 'you ' and 'me' in your sentence - then it makes perfect sense and I totally understand it.
You want me to pick a different language for each word? Okay, I'll play - here goes:
Donkos ko sa mo kerplunkt avec yanishnaau aerofloten chieng dung nyet.
Roughly translated; it equates to a somewhat humorous pictoral rendering of the mental state of a typical Bozo State fan, immediately upon realizing that the Idaho Vandals just won the WAC championship in 2010. Pretty simple stuff.
I don't believe I have ever used the word 'baguette' on this thread or any other thread I have ever posted on in my life. I don't even use that word when I go to New Orleans for Mardi Gras. When I am there, all I ever say is 'gimme a cold beer' or maybe sometimes, I will say 'out of beer, huh - okay then gimme a shot of red eye in a dirty glass'. But, I never use the 'baguette' word.
'Baguette' phonetically sounds similar to 'bag it'
I do use the words 'bag it' when I am in a grocery store or a department store and I am at the check out stand. I usually speak those words to the employee on duty. The conversation usually goes something like this:
Hi, how are you?
Will that be all?
Yes, by the way how about them Broncos?
Oh, they are doing great this year. I am so proud of them. They have become such a great football team since the days I was a student and a member of the Debate Team at BSU.
Wow, thats great !!!
Will that be all?
Yeah - go ahead an baguette.
Or Tuesday Weld fat and smelling of bourbon lying in the street.
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There is no life in Idaho...it is a mirror site on god's server. You were dreaming but it is over. Go to your residence and await our commands and THEN we will restore control...
VNDL
You forgot the rest of that scenario: you know, where the checker who is also a BSU grad brings to your attention that your food stamps will not cover your Keystone and Marlboros. Dejectedly you turn away stopping by the "apply here" kiosk and filling out your application again, stupidly putting down U of I as your "education."
Dan Quail spells 'potato' with an 'e' at the end
potato2:
Tip of the ole sombrero to ya. Not bad - gave me a good chuckle.
He also uses the word 'former' before 'vice president'.
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There is no life in Idaho...it is a mirror site on god's server. You were dreaming but it is over. Go to your residence and await our commands and THEN we will restore control...
wiener
Hey nobody thinks you're cool when you spout off about your refined tastes. Go dazzle the other vandals with your clever shenanigans. Fous le camp!
PS Maybe you should have been on the debate team?
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I Hate It When People Mispronounce My Name !!!!
jacaufield:
I see you changed your name to appear 'French' sounding and continental.
I checked in the phone book and your name is actually Jack Off Eeld.
Then become a Jones and pipe down. What a maroon!
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There is no life in Idaho...it is a mirror site on god's server. You were dreaming but it is over. Go to your residence and await our commands and THEN we will restore control...
Actually, it's Irish
Your little black book of past dates doesn't constitute a phonebook.
Fan Base?
I was at the Fiesta Bowl in 2007 and a funny thing happened, our "tiny" fan base easily out numbered Oklahoma's huge fan base. I wish people would quit using the fan base as an excuse, I think BSU proved that we can travel well and bring the fans to the game. I believe we had more fans at that game than we can fit in our own stadium. That brings me to my only gripe about BSU fans; why can't we sell out every game in Bronco Stadium? Given the population of the surrounding areas we should be able to sell out a 40k to 50k seat stadium.
Can I Get Anchovies On My Pizza ?????
I am checking my E-mail to be notified of winning a medium pizza from Dominos for guessing the score of the BSU-LaTech game and coming the closest of anyone who has posted a score on this thread. I understand those are the rules.
I will eat my pizza prior to the BSU - Idaho game, in the Bozo State Stadium. I will wash it down with large quaffs of manly Vandal beer.
I will then go to the game.
Now, I will drink several manly Vandal beers; during which I will listen to my I-pod loaded with several renditions of the Vandal Fight Song - which has been voted nationally as the greatest football fight song of any university - during the recorded history of mankind.
PS - I just got off the phone with Joe Vandal - he thinks the score of the BSU - Idaho game will be:
BSU - 24
Idaho - 79
I don't think so - I think it will be close and come down to the last few minutes of the fourth quarter. I believe the final score will be:
Idaho - 34
BSU - 32
Either way, the Vandies win and begin their climb to a BCS bowl spot for the 3020 season.
VNDL Wins Big Time ! Nostrodamus Ain't SH*# Compared To Him
Dear Mr. Murphy: You recently posted, en parte: "The “Name the Score” contest is back. The winner gets a gift certificate to Domino’s. Thanks again to Treasure Valley-area Domino’s for their support. . .
Here are the rules for the newcomers . . .
Boise State visits Louisiana Tech on Friday night and here is your chance to predict the score and win a gift certificate from Domino's Pizza for one medium three-topping pizza . . .
Place your guesses in the comments down below and we will pick one winner . . .
The closest to the actual score of the game wins . . .
All entries must be received by 4 p.m. MT on Friday . . .
When you register to make comments at IdahoStatesman.com, you put in an e-mail address. I will contact the winner through that e-mail address."
To date, I have received no notification from you that I am the WINNER of the aforementioned contest. I followed the rules (please see my post above - entitled, "His Name Is Joe Vandal - Donkettes Swoon With His Mere Presence"
Submitted by VNDL on Thu, 11/05/2009 - 2:46pm.) correctly. I made the time deadline and did everything you said to do.
The actual score was BSU - 45
La Tech - 35
I predicted in Point #2 of my aforementioned post (entitled - "His Name Is Joe Vandal - Donkettes Swoon With His Mere Presence" Submitted by VNDL on Thu, 11/05/2009 - 2:46pm.) a final score of:
BSU - 54
La Tech - 35
I was off by only 9 points. None of the Donkos came EVEN close to guessing the final score of a game involving THEIR OWN team. But a Vandal did! (side note - just goes to show you how absolutely pathetic those donkey faced, buckteeth morons are)
I have reviewed the predictions of other contributors to this thread and have ascertained that I was the closest to predicting the actual final score for this game. I won, I won, I won - darn it, I won.
But alas, no notification of the great pizza prize yet.
Is it because I am a Vandal?
Is it because, because I am a Vandal, that I am extremely manly and as a Vandal, probably almost perfectly telepathic? Or was it just 'because'?
I have discussed this matter with Joe Vandal. He too, is very concerned and outraged that the stellar achievements of a fellow Vandal (me and my getting closer to the prediction of the Final Score of the BSU-LaTech game than anyone else - especially those idiotic Donkos) are being overlooked, due to, either:
1. You have just not got around to it yet,
2. You really are a closet Donko and bleed blue and orange (In all honesty, this theory is a stretch considering the content of some of your articles and writings - even most Dimwitted Donkos would agree with me on that one),
3. You really are a closet Vandal and drank too much manly Vandal beer, got the 'munchies' and ate the damn pizza.
Which is it Mr. Murphy? Inquiring minds just gottta know.
With much fondness and respect,
Mr. VNDL (Chieftan Emeritus, BS, MS, MA, PhD, IRS, FBI, YMCA, BFD)