Moore, Petersen honored; Petersen dismisses BCS talk
By Chadd Cripe
ccripe@idahostatesman.com
© 2009 Idaho Statesman
Monday was a day for accolades for the Boise State football program.
Sophomore quarterback Kellen Moore was named one of 15 semifinalists for the Davey O’Brien National Quarterback Award.
Coach Chris Petersen was named to the watch list for the Bear Bryant coach of the year award that he won in 2006. The list of 20 coaches includes Idaho coach Robb Akey.
Plus, safety Jeron Johnson was named the WAC defensive player of the week (two interceptions, fumble recovery) and kicker/punter Kyle Brotzman was named the special teams player of the week (four field goals, 72-yard punt, completion on fake punt).
Meanwhile, TCU was named the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl National Team of the Week.
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Petersen, as usual, did his best to shrug off BCS talk during his weekly press conference. He said he has chuckled as the Broncos have moved up after a subpar performance and down after a strong performance.
“(The players) would be frustrated if they paid attention to that stuff,” Petersen said. “That’s why we don’t pay attention to that stuff.”
To Petersen, the BCS isn’t an issue for another five or six weeks.
“Until then, it’s just a bunch of drama that a lot of people like to get caught up in,” he said.
When asked if he would lobby for his team, Petersen asked whether it would help. Reminded that Texas coach Mack Brown once lobbied the Longhorns into the BCS, Petersen said, “I’m not Mack Brown and this isn’t Texas.”
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I understand all that and respect Coach Pete greatly, but.......
those of us who pay ever increasing amounts to hold onto our season tickets expect the greatest possible return on our investment. You either play the system or the system plays you!
Redefine your ROI
Seems to me you are paying for the privilege to watch a "Boise State FOOTBALL game" not a "Boise State BCS game".
HINT to fellow Boise State fans: Regarding the BCS, be sure to watch ESPN with the volume off. Instant stress reduction!
LOL!
Especially if you see Mark May on the EPN set...
I don't have cable or satellite. Solved.
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Return on your investment?
Interesting. I've never considered my season tickets as something I purchase to get a return on investment. So, unless we get a BCS spot, you will stop buying season tickets?
ask yourself, what would the bronco football program be without
what would the bronco football program be withoutwithout season ticket holders and it's BAA members?
In 2008-09, the BAA had over 4,000 members who generated well over one million dollars in membership dues.
The BAA is also involved with Athletic Scholarship Endowment which help fund tuition, books, housing, meals and insurance for deserving BSU student-athletes, and the BAA asists in the solicitation of funds for construction projects better knows as "Capital Projects" which resulted in the Bronco Stadium Expansion, Caven-Williams Sports Complex and the renovation of the Bronco Football Complex.
What's my point? My point is that the vast majority of season ticket holders are also BAA members, and a football program that lacks a thriving athletic booster organization is a football program that's headed for disaster. One might even say that the success of it's football progam can be measured by it's athletic association.
BSU season ticket holders are in essence investing in the football program, and their ROI isn't measured in dividends, but in a successful football program and in the elite football programs of the NCAA, which we're far from being, beased on the fact that unlike other coaches, Petersen and Bleymaier don't have to deal the big money boosters who hold coaches accountable for their teams performance and who put pressure on them to make the personnel changes etc etc and who hold the power over universities to have coaches put on the hot seat and/or have them fired, and Boise State is far from having a booster organization like that, which for the most part I am thankful for, however, as we progress and become more and more succesful, the money will follow, and I'm not just talking about BCS money, but in big time private donations, and when people give money, you can bet your butt that they expect something in exchange other than the privilege of seeing a football game, so I can certainly see this guys' point of view regarding ROI
Look at Texas for instance
Their football program raised $35 million last year through booster donations, suites and premium seating and they also have a $29 million athletic endowment.
A few years ago Oklahoma State saw a $165 million donation from billionaire oilman T. Boone Pickens to upgrade the football stadium, which is the single largest gift to a collegiate athletic program, Pickens also allowed OSU to take out a $10 million insurance policy on his life, and that was in addition to the $37 million raised OSU Boosters. Garth Brooks is also a huge donor of OSU.
Then of course, there's Phil Knight who has given an ungodly amount of money to Oregon. Autzen Stadium recently underwent a $90 million expansion, half of which Knight covered. Knights donations have helped Oregon rank among only a handful Division I-A athletic departments that are self-sufficient in operating without any university support.
So just about every major football program out there has it's fair share of big money donors, which is what BSU needs, that and some more annual BCS paydays
Great points
These are great points and ones that the average fan does not ever consider. Money is the reason why programs do well long term. BCS money is a drop in the hat for a School like TEXAS or OHIO STATE who anually lead the nation in athletic department cash flow. BSU will at some point have a fan become uber rich and donate some money, but until the AD is willing to make some road game decisions the program will look similar each year. BSU must be given credit for what has been built from scratch though, and at some point the MWC will agree that BSU would help the league in football. If BSU could step it up in something other than football they will get the invitaion. The main obsticale that must be looked at is the size of the stadium. At some point to be a place big teams are willing to come play, the staduim must seat 60,000+. When that happens look for a conference change to follow.
Re: Mountain West Conference
I agree that BSU needs to leave the WAC, however, I don't believe that the MWC is the right direction that BSU should head towards because for one, the MWC isn't a BCS conference, or at least it's not one yet. The Pac-10 would be a much better option, however, like the MWC, there are some challenges that BSU must meet before it would be accepted, granted, an invitation was granted, which is highly unlikley, so what should BSU do?
Well, In my opinion, I think that BSU should look at joining Army, Navy and Notre Dame as the 4th Independent. I think that's the best option for BSU considering that the rest of BSU's athletic teams wouldn't be able to compete if they left the WAC, but Notre Dame is in a unique position in that their football program is Independent, but the reat of ND's sports play in teh Big East, so essentially, BSU could stay in WAC play, with the exception of it's football team.
Notre Dame has a TV contract with I believe ABC, which airs all of their home games, and becaus eof that, bigger schools know that they'll play in front of a nationally televised audience, and since BSU already has a history of being covered on ESPN, we too would have national exposure leverage when it comes to scheduling, and because we wouldn't belong to a conference, we wouldn't have any conference games, but instead, we could hand pick all of our opponents.
Going Independent has it's challenges as well, considering that BSU would need to show reasons as to why they need Independence, and our weak WAC schedule that prevents us from attaining a BCS game might be reason enough to be granted Independence, however, we would still neeed to be recognized by teh BCS in the same manner that ND is.
As far as tehe size of our stadium goes, it will see an expansion in the near future, however, considering the fact that the ACC's Wake Forest and Duke, along with the SEC's Vanderbilt, all have stadium capacity less than 40K, it shouldn't be that big of an issue.
Whichever route we go, it sure will be intersting to se which steps BSU will make as it continues to grow
Boise State could have had a 50,000+ stadium alreeady
But, instead, the university spent the Fiesta Bowl money on that stupid Steukel (sp?) Skyclub. If they had spent half the money on that hideous monstrosity, we could have AT MINIMUM completed the entire south end, and extended the north end. That would have given the stadium at least 15,000 more seats.
BTW, the biggest reason we havent sold out games is because they keep jacking up the prices. NEWSFLASH: LOWER PRICES LEADS TO MORE BUTTS IN SEATS!!!
Sounds like the politicalspeak, doesn't it?
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You are right
I agree to an extent. What I am getting tired of is being on the edge of "the big game". There's too many factors out of the coaches hand to deal with all of them, but he does need to make some noise IF they go undefeated. You can not expect a paying customer to keep paying more if you are not willing to offer more.
Petersen, nor any coach has much of a say in the BCS however
it sure would be nice for Petersen to take an interest in it just for the fact that the BCS has unfortunately become the be all end all of college football, therefore if BSU wants a piece of the BCS Pie, Petersen needs to stand up and demand a slice instead of sitting there saying nothing as others reach around him and grab a slice while he declares that it really doesn't matter until there's only one slice left, because fact of the matter is that rankings do matter.
I think that privately, Petersen is very interested in the polls, because he knows that the polls are what ultimately measures a football teams' success and is what financially rewards them at season's end, however, publicly, he's downplaying it so that the team doesn't get too cocky, but cockiness, boldness and assertiveness is what propels a team, and in my opinion is the key ingredient that's been lacking on the field this year and especially on 3rd downs and in the red zone.
We've been way too laid back, cautious and courteous of our opponents this year, and our games have been too close for comfort not only for our football program, but for a #4 BCS team, and it's about time that Petersen takes ownership of being ranked as high as we have been, instead of downplaying it as if it doesn't matter, because the way the team has seemed to have taken teh attituide that nothing really matters. They don't make a 3rd down conversion and they don't seem to care, they settle for a FG instead of a TD and they don't seem to care, they're in a position to shut out an opponent late in the 4th qtr, and they don't seem to care, they keep fumbling the snap, and they don't seem to care, they went from #4 in the BCS to #7 and they don't seem to care.
Isn't it about time that someone on that team starts to care???
What planet are you on, son? Re-enter the atmosphere.
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At Some Point
If the Broncos have 2 straight undefeated regular seasons (and 4 out of the last 6) and are left out of a BCS Bowl this year then Petersen should make a scene. But right now nothing is done. Theres still half a season to play. However, he owes it to his players first, fans second, to stand up and say something if and when they finish 13-0.
For BSU, here's the grim
For BSU, here's the grim reality of the situation......if BSU wins out (highly probable, given their easy conference schedule) and UO wins out, UO will probably finish above BSU.....bottom line, Pac 10 conference schedule trumps WAC conference schedule. Every time.
Give the man a break
Every week since three weeks before the season started, Our idiotic local media has asked the same question of coach Pete. And every week Coach says the same thing. "We are preparing for next week and we are not concerned with ratings or polls." I am sure coach is getting sick of answering the same question. I would hope you are sick of asking it.
How to get to a BCS bowl
Let's focus on beating San Jose State, then LA Tech, then Idaho, then Utah State, then Nevada, followed by New Mexico State.....THEN we can talk about whether Boise State deserves to go to a BCS game.
Don't worry, Fiesta Bowl organizers are watching Boise State. They won't be ignored, but they may be outperformed by TCU. Until the Broncos win each of their remaining games, there is no chance of a BCS spot. Why don't we focus on that instead of complaining about whether Peterson is lobbying enough?
itll all work out
you watch if we win out well get in alot of anyalists say there will be 2 teams tcu and bsu in if they both win out trust me the bcs is feeling the pressure but like alot of you have said and coach pete lets talk about it in 6 weeks
Really? how did it work out last year for Utah and us?
Utah should have been playing in the national championship game and we should have been in a BCS bowl instead of the Poinsettia Bowl where we lost to TCU and when push come to shove, TCU's win over us will be used in their favor, along with their SOS.
Our SOS is so poor that we have to root for Oregon, and basically we're being rewarded for each game that Oregon wins, more so than the games we win, but as we backslide in the polls, Oregon (if they continue to win) will eventually pass us in the polls even though we beat them head to head.
So sure, I guess that when the season is winding down and we're undefeated and ranked 14th in the BCS, that would be an ideal time for Petersen to start talking about rankings.
It worked fine...
They still play football and we still have lots of LDS members.
Babbleon.
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Nice
some well thought out comments on here. nice to see level headed chat for a change.
Coach Pete is full of BS
What a joke! Peterson doesn't care about the BCS ratings? Total BS all the way. When the right opportunity arises, he will be gone in a heartbeat. Come on, Coach Pete, be honest and quit playing this stupid little game.
Spoke too soon...
Some well thought out comments on here. nice to see level headed chat for a change.
It was nice until Mr. Absent of Any Grey Matter spoke up. What a maroon.
You really think Peterson wants to move to another program after seeing what all the other ex-BSU coaches are going through? I don't think so.
Bye, bye, Coach Pete
It's called EGO, moron. Peterson is no different.
His ego...
is just fine here. He is the most powerful man in the state. He is also a pretty smart man and realizes his ego would take quite a hit if he moved it elsewhere. He is staying.
Beats old Butch, yahitdoo.
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BCS
If we are going to continue to have this joke of a system, then the BCS should just take the top 10 ranked teams. 2 for the title game and 8 for the 4 bcs bowl games. If you are a BSU fan, hope TCU loses. It should not be that way though it should be the top 10 teams with a SOS component. If BSU schedules a couple more OOC games agains BCS opponents and wins then send them and TCU. Who cares what conference they are from. The Big East is no better than the MWC and has a auto tie in?? What a joke. The pac 10 is USC away from the BIg east and the ACC is a mess.
Pac 10 trumps WAC every
Pac 10 trumps WAC every time....BSU's SOS is a joke.
Every time except the last two times, you mean...
What was the outcome the last two times BSU played a PAC-10 team?
Three times
The last 3 games, Boise State has defeated a PAC-1 team. They beat Oregon twice, and Oregon St.
If both Oregon and BSU win
If both Oregon and BSU win out, Oregon will finish above BSU.....Pac 10 is a superior conference and in the end, a one loss UO will have a more realistic chance at the NC game than BSU.....SOS counts and compared to Oregon's schedule, BSU's s conference SOS is a joke.
No, it's not
The PAC-1 only has one elite team. I guess SOS doesn't matter if your team loses (again).
Brother......!
Will there ever come a day, when you crybaby duck fans will will man-up, and stop crying all over these message boards ? You make your team look PATHETIC ! Grow a pair, and realize your team was out played at home, and on the road by a superior team. Build a bridge, and GET OVER IT !
SOS: Still a distress call, ABBA tune, chipped beef on toast.
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Broken record...
"BSU's SOS is a joke"...
Everyone needs to read CBS.com and actually follow the SOS of all the teams each week. There have been a couple weeks that BSU's SOS has been higher than FLORIDA'S! Yes. Florida, #1/2 Florida. And Texas. #2/3 Texas.
Right now, it is back down in the 70's range, but it has been far higher in the last few weeks. So before you go blabbing how BSU will never account to anything, etc. go read the SOS yourself!
GO BRONCOS!
(More games like Hawaii, please. But with decent snaps.)
Coach Pete Has Integrity
I don't know how you could say coach Pete is full of BS. Interesting there has been talk about playing the the NC THIS YEAR, that talk was supposed to be for next year. I don't see Pete jumping ship for a while. He and the coaching staff put together this young team and and you honestly think they or Pete aren't going to stick around to see what happens? We've got the smartest and most talented QB in the country, solid receiving corps. and defense. These guys haven't even scratched the surface of their potential. I say this staff is smart enough to ride this out and I'll bet Pete is here long enough to see us in a BCS conference. Big Blue will knock on the door as long as it takes. This is the year BSU and TCU force changes in the BCS. That's my take and I'm sticking to it!!!!!!
YEAH!
...what opatriot said!!!
GO GO GO BRONCOS!!!
Recognition
So, I am pretty certain BSU's center isn't in contention for any awards, huh?
Dude is bouncing hikes off his legs. Someone in my crowd yelled out "Use the thigh master!"
He SHANKED one hike.
Strong chain, weak link.
You'll get in big trouble using a thigh master-don't u dare
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LOL!
Yeah - good one!
If their coaches don't have them doing a thousand snaps between now and the next game, they're nuts.
What a ridiculously SOLVEABLE problem we have here. Brotzman and his inconsistencies were one thing - this wild snapping thing is simply silly.
GO BRONCOS!
Snaps
I know the snaps leave something to be desired (TIC), but sometimes when my golf game is going bad, rather then hit a thousand balls on the range I just take a week off totally from looking at a golf ball and when I return I go back to basics.
Maybe the centers would benefit from forgetting about all the bad stuff, get away from it for awhile, take some time off and get some positive thoughts in their heads.
One thing for sure, these kids want to succeed. They are not purposely hiking the ball badly. Slowly this will turn around. If not I'm sure we'll be recruiting a solid JC center this year.
Either way, give it a rest, please, they're college kids trying their best.
How many Top 10 teams have trouble with the Center-QB exchange?
How many Top 10 teams have trouble with the Center-QB exchange?
I can understand the fact that they're college kids doing their best, but let me paraphrase former coach, dan hawkins when he said: "It's Division I football.... It ain't intramurals!".
broncokid said:
BSU season ticket holders are in essence investing in the football program, and their ROI isn't measured in dividends, but in a successful football program and in the elite football programs of the NCAA, which we're far from being, beased on the fact that unlike other coaches, Petersen and Bleymaier don't have to deal the big money boosters who hold coaches accountable for their teams performance and who put pressure on them to make the personnel changes etc etc and who hold the power over universities to have coaches put on the hot seat and/or have them fired, and Boise State is far from having a booster organization like that, which for the most part I am thankful for, however, as we progress and become more and more succesful, the money will follow, and I'm not just talking about BCS money, but in big time private donations, and when people give money, you can bet your butt that they expect something in exchange other than the privilege of seeing a football game, so I can certainly see this guys' point of view regarding ROI
SERIOUSLY DUDE! That's the longest run-on sentence in history!
yeah...well
if it's as historic as you claim it to be, then that's pretty cool. I guess that I safely assume that I'm now the new Guinness world record holder for run on sentences!
;-)
He'd like to thank Guinness Stout for sponsoring him too.
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