By Chadd Cripe
ccripe@idahostatesman.com
Boise State coach Chris Petersen wouldn’t rule out starting quarterback Bush Hamdan on Senior Day. The Broncos play Fresno State on Friday at Bronco Stadium.
“I don’t know,” Petersen said Monday. “We’re still working out the senior plan.”
The Broncos often try to start deserving seniors on Senior Day who have not been starters before. They’ve done it the last two years on the offensive line, for instance.
Hamdan, the backup quarterback the past two seasons, never has started a game but he is a popular leader in the locker room. He is 18-for-35 for 276 yards and four touchdowns with one interception in his career (149.67 efficiency).
“The reason Bush is here and the reason Bush is doing well right now … is because I think he feels the respect from the coaches and his teammates and he knows how important he is to us,” Petersen said. “Certainly his journey hasn’t worked out how he thought it would, how we thought it would, but I still think he feels very strongly about Boise State and the program and his experience here.”
My bet: Hamdan definitely plays a series in the first half and I'd say there's at least a 50-50 shot that he starts and plays the first series before starter Kellen Moore takes over.
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Boise State sophomore wide receiver Austin Pettis was named the WAC offensive player of the week Monday.
Pettis had nine catches for 126 yards and two touchdowns in Saturday’s 41-34 win at Nevada. He now has nine touchdown catches on the season, which ties him for the WAC lead.
The other WAC players of the week were Hawaii linebacker Solomon Elimimian (13 tackles, 2.5 tackles for loss, tipped pass that was intercepted) on defense and Louisiana Tech special-teamer Keith Brown (blocked punt that went for a TD, two tackles) on special teams.

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Congrats Austin
You deserve it!
Injuries
Chad,
Could you give an update on the injury situation (if you have info). That was one hard fought game! Congrats to Austin, he keeps getting better. Looks like the Wolfpack concentrated on Jeremy Childs, and found out that doesn't work. It just opened up Austin and Vinny.
BCS
Does Boise State deserve a BCS Bowl? No. But they sure the hell deserve it over Utah. College teams are called "programs" for a reason. It takes time to build and recruit and train...the players the coaching staff etc...
The Broncos killed Utah in Salt Lake City just 26 months ago. The local radio there blasted the Ute program saying they were miles behind the Bronco program even though they are the original BCS Busters.
Even if you give the argument that Boise State isn't deserving based on this years performance, thats cool. But no way in hell they lose to Utah on a neutral field. So now millions of dollars are lost. Most importantly, what do you tell the kids? You beat who you play, but sorry you don't have the opportunity to play somebody better?
in just a few years our kids are going to laugh at this archaic system. The Broncos could have 3 undefeated regular season in 5 years. And yet they are on the outside looking in; to the MTN West Conference it has never lost to.
Who cares what BSU did 26
Who cares what BSU did 26 months ago? LIVE IN THE NOW!!! That's what's wrong with you and the rest of Bronco Nation Landon, you live in the past. You're still relishing in your Fiesta Bowl victory. BSU is a decent program, but they wont move onto the next level until you realize that your past doesnt mean crap. Dont knock Utah for doing something BSU wont do. They beat Oregon State, Air Force, BYU and TCU-3 very good teams in the same year. BSU beat the 1 good team they played this year.
ANd that's exactly what you tell the team Landon. Maybe they need some internal push to start scheduling good teams to make up for their joke of a conference. Unfortunately, the athletic department (and most of Bronco Nation) would prefer to have an undefeated team than schedule top notch talent and try to prove what you really are. BSU had it's day in the sun, but now pollsters need more evidence for teams to prove who they are.
cah
Is it Boise States fault that the WAC Conference was weaker this year? That Fresno played down, your Vandals suck again and TCU BYU and Oregon State are not in our conference. And Air Force? Get real, thats not valid.
Boise State is a lot better than you give them credit for. Your hatred is so tiring.
Boise State does however need to schedule one more BCS opponent before conference play begins. Boise States day in the sun is far from over. Undefeated seasons with young teams get your panties all twisted.
College football fans are hypocrites.
The same ones that tell you your team's past accomplishments are meaningless are the same ones that will shove their team's national championships in your face.
Not Necessarily
I don't think you can make the determination that neither Utah or Boise State belong; what makes them less deserving say than the winner of the Big East or ACC? The only way one could know with certainty who the better team is between Boise State and Utah is if they played one another. Boise State has built up a solid program over the years and I think that maybe that should be taken into consideration until a playoff could be implemented but Utah has beaten some tough teams (Michigan not included).
26 MONTHS AGO
I'm not a Broncos fan nor am I a Utes fan. I am speaking simply as a college football fan.
You need to shut up. I know that Boise curb stomped them at Salt Lake 26 months ago but that was the past. Let's talk about the present. The present Utes definitely deserve the bid more than the present Broncos. If you want to talk about the past, let's talk about the Utes of 04. Alex Smith and Urban Meyer would've curb stomped the Broncos in 04. Do you still want to talk about the past? Let's talk about the Broncos of 05 that were routed in Georgia. Boise played a BCS team on the road and they were humiliated. A year later, practically the same team improved and defeated Oklahoma.
You simply can't compare teams just because they played years ago. You have to analyze the present, not the past.
ddn2007
Excellent analysis. I am a BSU fan, but I refuse to be a homer.
Hmmmm, looks like Big 12 schools have the BCS blues, too!
The WAC Commish is not alone in trying to make a case to get the better end of the BCS stick, http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/notebook?page=notebook/onthemark1124. Analyze this!
I will take another home
I will take another home game (H-bowl)!!! We are not good enough for a BCS bowl game. We are too inconsistent. Next year, I believe all bets are off and when we destroy all teams we play and we dont let other defenses score on our stupid errors, then we are ready. We are good, but we are not there yet. No Hawaii repeat please.
ddn2007
I think that Utah team of 04 was very special. They deserved a shot at a National Championship and along with Auburn was undefeated and left out. Thats the point I was making. The system is so flawed that a team can win all of its games and not get a chance to prove they are the best at seasons end. This year Utah came back to win home games against OSU and TCU, both very good teams. But Im not sure their resume is so much better than the Broncos.
Get your head out of the gutter
Boise State in 05 was a different team than Boise State of 04. And btw, we're talking about Utah...not Georgia. Just thought I'd clarify that.
Exactly
I am glad you can point out that the 05 team was different than the 04 team. I guess that just means teams are different year after year. My point is that just because Boise beat Utah in 06 doesn't exactly mean they will beat them again this year.
True
...but we will never know unless they go head to head. I think it would be a close game whichever way it went.
Live in the present..
So ddn2007 maybe you need to change your sign-in name to 2008! But I do agree with you. I don't think one can tell the strength of the Utah footbal team based on 26 months ago. And I AM A BRONCO FAN! Go Broncos!
Its hard to disagree with
Its hard to disagree with JLandon's sentiments, but I do on one point. We (Utah too) do deserve a shot at a BCS Bowl. If you look closely at why certain other teams are chosen over non-BCS programs for at-large spots you see audience preference as the deciding factor. If audience share is to be legitimately considered the deciding factor Notre Dame and its monsterous fan following would be in every BCS Bowl season. This year, given they were just beaten by lowly Syracuse, no real sports minded person (other than ND followers) would think an ND game would be worth watching. The system must make room for the smaller programs. They represent the majority of the 120 Division 1 schools who seldomly attract the franchise players and who don't have national TV coverage. The Boise States and the Utah's represent the dreams of those who likley will never get an invitation but who harbor in their hearts the sure knowledge that they too could do well and have a piece of the glory even if few others would ever agree. BSU and Utah and the others who make it, keep thier passion alive and keep them believing that NEXT year their team could be on that field and that THEY TOO could beat Oklahoma in double overtime on national TV.
It was just one overtime
...but other than that...not a bad comment.
BCS . . .
I have had season tickets for 12 years now. I graduated from Boise State in 1980. I love watching the Broncos and rooting for them. That being said, I don't think BSU is the 9th best team in the country. I don't think they deserve a shot at the BCS this year. We cannot run against decent run defenses. Our O-Line is young, inexperienced and small. They will be better next year, our talent level is going up. We are probably interchangeable at any of the bottom half slots of the top 25 with all the other teams. On any given day, we could beat them and they could beat us. Stack us up against the other top 10 teams, and we would win less than half of those games. No disrespect to the Broncos, they have succeeded this year beyond what I expected.
cah83713, don't talk about scheduling and then compare our schedule to Utah's and include three in-conference foes they had to play. Yes, the MWC had tougher competition this year. They were about even last year with the WAC. The WAC had a very off year this year, the MWC was off last year.
BTW, I would like to see Utah go play at Autzen and come out with a win this year, whether it was the 4th stringer or not. that Oregon team has talent, and the 4th stringer may be the starter next year. He played better than the other three did.
Darren Thomas
Oregon quarterback that reaped great results against the Boise State defense was the team's 5th string quarterback. May be 4th now, but he was 5th then.
No offense, but...
No offense, but if Hamden gets to play more than one or two series in this game, BSU may not still be undefeated. Although we have not see him play a whole lot, everytime he goes in it is almost disasterous. Fresno is not going to be letting up for this game and senior or not, I hope the coaches play the right people for the win.
Have a heart!
OMG...starting Hamden is NOT going to lose the game! Get real! The coaches will play the right people and we'll still win.............
Hamden may start...
But he isn't finishing. No way Coach Pete is going risk losing on Senior Day or lose to a WAC team at home. Aint happening.
Penn State vs Uath
I am trying to understand how Uath is ranked hire than Penn St? If you want to go by strenth of schedule the big ten is a stronger conference, Penn States only loss was to the Iowa by one point and to be ranked 8 by the BCS don't make since and Uath moved up to 6 and Penn State didn't move up at all after winning that seems pretty funny to me.
My opinion
I think most of you are more knowledgable than I am on these subjects, but I have to put in a couple cents...
Hamden should start. He's well deserved and its a great Bronco tradition. He'll have Kellen's O-line so I think you'll see a better Bush! I think our defense will allow Bush/Kellen to win.
MWC and WAC. We need all our 'programs' at Boise State to improve before we can approach the MWC or PAC10.
Lots of good points mentioned already. I think its so frustrating that we cant/dont/wont whatever play 'big program' schools. The fact that Idaho got a shot at USC and we cant get anything better than Southern Miss, to me, implies that teams are afraid of an "L" from a WAC team! I'm glad we're playing the Oregon teams (over the years) but lets remind the Georgias, Floridas and Auburns...hey wanna play...dont worry, you'll beat us like UGA in 05...then kick their butts like OU.
JUST DON'T KNOW
I mean the argument can be made about alot of things!
I don't have a problem with Hamden starting I think he's earned it! Utah's undefeated they've had a good year you can't take that away same with BSU. As far as opponents and tougher schedule that stuff is noones fault and I find it hard to penalize teams when other teams don't live up to expectations. I've said before, Southern Miss, and Bowling Green were picked preseason to win or finish 2nd in their conference and they've flopped. Oregon can still finish 2nd in the Pac-10 if they beat OSU, which was a great win for BSU. The WAC is just a bad football conference and it always will be, the sooner BSU goes to the MWC the better. That being said UTAH has benefited from alot of preseson hype off of BYU. BYU had a win streak and took advantage of a weak schedule up to the TCU game. Becuase they were ranked WAY to high (imo) both TCU and Utah have got so called "quality wins" TCU and UTAH also beat up on lesser teams and please don't play the Air Force is a tough team card on us. Utah signature wins Michigan, which really doesn't even need to be explained, Oregon State at home good win wasn't pretty but its a win, and TCU which again wasn't pretty but it still counts. TCU quality wins (imo an overrated BYU). So really they all have one quality win and not much more. As a BSU fan I feel very confident in saying they have done much more than Utah considering the youth on this team.
Gratz to Utah go represent the non-BCS teams well.
Horra
I like your analysis, but I don't think the Mountain West would be a good move. The MWC and WAC are at about equal par over the years in my eyes. The MWC is sure strong this year, but I do think teams such as Nevada and even possibly Fresno State are better than people thing. Also, the usual bottom feeders of Idaho and Utah State are even playing better this year! Just a matter of years until the WAC MIGHT be better than the MWC. No need making a move to a conference that is of about equal par and doesn't have nearly as good TV coverage. Plus, Idaho would have to be an out of conference game then...not particularly liking that. Rather play them in conference until the Pac-10 opens up to the idea of an expansion.
Hamden didn't get the
Hamden didn't get the starting job for one very good reason: He doesn't play very well. It is obvious every time he has taken the field this year. I am sorry but there it is. Unless coach has a ground game in mind with just a handful of plays we take too big of a risk putting Hamden in. Maybe it doesn't make much difference in post season but then again maybe it does.
Schedule banter
I've said this before; it's all about the money. The top schools will play Boise State at their place. So, it's up to the AD to step up and schedule some meaningful out of conference games. Meanwhile, keep expanding the stadium, so that it's feasible monetarily to attract teams from the big conferences to come to Boise. We're lucky that Oregon agreed to come here in 09.
Boise could well be better than Utah this year, but we'll never know. It's doubtful that the Utes could go into Autzen stadium and come out with a win, but they did do a little better schedule wise simply because they are in a better conference.
Hmm...
I don't think the stadium size is a factor. If anything, I think it is a detriment. More seats means more Boise State fans. Sure, you need a particular size to fit their fans in there too...but once you hit a certain size (probably 20-25 thousand) that's not really a problem anymore. They won't want more of our fans to be there, so smaller size isn't bad.
Beau, it really is about
Beau, it really is about money. It is not about football. At $100 a pop, you make more money with the bigger stadium. It sounds silly to have to discuss this but there you are. No truly noteworthy schools are willing to come to Boise if they have to sacrifice very much money to do so. It is not in their fiduciary best interest. Home and home games with the Pac-10 and larger BCS schools will only happen when we too can generate as big a paycheck for them as they could earn elsewhere. It doesn't appear to be absolute but it seems to be the rule rather than the exception. We can have games with these big programs if we are will to travel to them. But those people who pony up the big bucks for Bronco Stadium seats want to see a game on the blue. So do I. So the sooner we can increase the stadium to 50,000 seats the better. My money is on having the capacity up to 42,000 within 5 years. That is a step in the right direction. We may not be able to snag Georgia on the blue but I'll bet UCLA, Arizona, Colorado and Cal would be more interested - assuming they are psychologically prepared for a whipping. :)
Point and Counter Point
Really don't have one because you are right on. All about the green.
I agree
I'm sorry. Just didn't quite know what you meant by that statement. But yes, stadiums with bigger crowds, will be able to provide a bigger check to the team coming down to entice them to play on the blue.
I agree
I'm sorry. Just didn't quite know what you meant by that statement. But yes, stadiums with bigger crowds, will be able to provide a bigger check to the team coming down to entice them to play on the blue.
that's not how it works
generally if you have a home and home, or even a two for one series with a team (like us with Oregon in 2008-2009), there is NO money exchanged. They get their ticket sales from their home game and we get ours. Adding seats won't make a difference, except to us. The only time it matters is when we pay a team like Idaho St. to come here for one game, or when Georgia pays us to go play there.... It's silly for us to go to Georgia for money only, it makes more sense to play one game there and one game here, but the Georgia's out there won't do that. (are they scared of Blue turf?)
Money - yes that is it
Along with the price of a ticket has to be the cost of the trip, don't you think? If I could have gone to Arizona to watch Choklahoma get beat for $75 a seat, I'd have gone. But the drive or flight down there was the deal breaker. THe one problem we have here in Boise is that we are the most out of the way larger city in the entire lower 48, bar none. No amount of stadium expansion or stronger schedule is going to geographically make Boise a closer destination for away fans. Once they get here the prices are quite reasonable, but getting here is just a huge undertaking for most people. I know there are die hards out there who will argue this because they are willing to load up and go anywhere to watch BSU, but you are the exceptions, not the rules that financial decisions must be based upon.
No Bush
I'm not a Bush-hater. Don't get me wrong. I love Bush.
Still, there's a game to win here. Give Bush time on the field if the game is no longer in doubt? Sure, no problem. But is the game still in doubt before kickoff? Yes.
Win first. Give Bush his proper dues second.
Come oooooon!
Starting Hamden is NOT going to lose the game! Our sophisticated coaches will do both.....proper dues AND win!
what do you mean the past means nothing?
maybe this was already addressed but i stopped reading cah83713 first post about the past not mattering. if the past didnt matter then why are the same 10 teams always ranked in the top 25 each year? its because they have built their programs over years and years and have proved they belong. we have now had 5 seasons this decade over 11 wins and 2 other 10 win seasons and never less then 8. that is much better then utah this decade by far. if usc, oklahoma, texas, and other teams like that can always get a boost just because of who they are then why can't we? the past does matter and we should definetly be ranked ahead of utah right now.
AGREED!
Totally agreed. Past does matter. Hit that right on the head!
How can you seriously
How can you seriously compare the past of a USC, Oklahoma or Texas to BSU? How many national titles has BSU won? These teams are consistently ranked where they are because they have proven themselves already. They play top-notch talent almost every week, every year, both home and away. They consistenly draw in the best players in the country and turn out the best teams. Do you honestly think you deserve respect for beating Idaho, Utah State, New Mexico State and Louisana Tech every year? There's probably some high school teams who could beat those guys. I'd love to see BSU play USC sometime or maybe Florida or Alabama. Remember the Georgia game??
There's 2 ways for BSU to get respect: #1 Get out of the WAC. By upgrading your conference games, running the table actually could mean something. #2 Play at least 2 quality BCS teams every year. Oregon was a good start. Now they should try to add a Kansas, Georgia Tech, Boston College or another BCS team in that caliber. At least then they could have 2 notable wins to rest their hats on and make up for the joke of a conference the WAC is.
Dude chill
We just want Boise State to get respect. We know they don't have as much of a history as those schools, but given their recent success, they should have a shot at those types of schools in bowl games.
What I'm trying to say is
What I'm trying to say is that you guys want respect for what you've done in the past. But consider this, BSU has played 2 top-notch programs in its recent history-Georgia and Oklahoma. You won one. Respect is not given, it's earned. YOu dont earn respect by beating up on the WAC every year. You guys preach about winning 10 or 11 games every year, but you fail to mention that 7 or 8 of those games are a joke. Can you imagine what Florida or USC's record would be if they played the same teams you guys do? They would win them as well. As would 80% of the other BCS conference teams.
One problem though....
Teams don't want to come and get their butts stomped on the blue turf. And they know that it would happen quite more often than our their own home turf with their own fans supporting them.
One problem though....
Teams don't want to come and get their butts stomped on the blue turf. And they know that it would happen quite more often than our their own home turf with their own fans supporting them.
cah
I've posted it before! The problem with you post about schedule, is it doesn't frickn matter! Look where BSU is now! Look where Fresno was in 2001 Fresno played I believe 2 BCS teams and beat them. There both ranked 8 and 9. Credibility is so overrated when it comes to college football that its actually quite disturbing when you think about it. Take Ohio States OOC schedule, it is every bit as bad as BSU's. Youngstown State, Ohio, and someone else. They played one BCS team that was USC and got steamrolled. I'm making this point becuase BSU's OOC is (I'll just say the same) except BSU won on the road and OSU lost! The argument about conference is as tired as a bear waiting for winter time. BSU cannot just jump and move when they want if they could trust me they would. BSU is the only team in all of D-1 football that will have 3 undefeated seasons in the last 5 years. I don't care who you are that is saying something. BSU is undefeated and adding another BCS team would not go as far as you think.
Teams dont schedule BSU away
Teams dont schedule BSU away games because there's no money in it. I think everyone in this forum can agree that college football is all about money. Filling a 35,000 seat stadium with what ticket prices are for Bronco Stadium just doesnt provide enough financial incentive for a team to come out. This notion that teams are afraid to play them is bull. If that was the case, Ohio State wouldnt schedule USC, Georgia wouldnt schedule Arizona State, Wisconsin wouldnt schedule Fresno State and no other major team would schedule anyone who could possibly beat them.
And Horra, OSU can schedule crap OOC teams because their conference schedule makes up for it. It sucks for BSU that the WAC is, for the most part, a joke. And you're right, they cant do anything about it. As long as strength of schedule is factored into BCS computer rankings, BSU is going to suffer from both electronic and public perception that they beat up on lesser talent and their record is tainted. People will remember them losing to Hawaii last year, who subsequently was SPANKED by Georgia. That's the lingering perception of the WAC. ANd that wont change unless BSU goes out, AGAIN, and takes on a major program on national television and makes up for Hawaii's debacle.
I agree with justsomeguy...
I agree with justsomeguy...
Who doesn't like bush in the 4th quarter. I would like to see bush in the 4th Q in every game, as long as the game is wrapped up. But starting out the game with Bush is not the way to do it.
bush starting is not a good idea
as much as i do like bush hamden he should not start a game this important. i dont care if it will be with a better offensive line then he's use to playing with, fresno is still good, not the great team they were made out to be in the preseason, but they are good. we need this win, we cant afford any mistakes early on so the best way to avoid that is to have the same guy start that has started the 11 previous. let him play in the first have if we are up by a couple of scores, but the first couple of series belong to moore.
Look at the computer rankings
The computer rankings take a dispassionate view of the teams. No "Cinderella story", no subjectiveness.
Outside of the top 3, the computer rankings are all over the place. Utah is number 5, BSU is 10. Oregon State tied for 20th, Oregon isn't even ranked.
Now, maybe the human factor that rearranges the computer rankings makes things more accurate - I'm not sure, but I do know that I disagree with at least a few teams' positions in the current standings. But I think that what's really nuts in the BCS system is the "ownership" of the bowls by their conferences. Because of that, teams like Oregon State and Cincinnati can play in a BCS bowl, even though they're in the basement of the Top 25, yet higher ranked teams won't get their chance.
The problem is that for the entire season, college football is a meritocracy - the best rise to the top. But when the season ends, that's thrown out the window. Other than the national championship game, most of the bowl participation is based on what conference owns which bowl game, with a bone tossed to a lone non-BCS team. It's fundamentally unamerican - there's a segment of football society that has a "right" to their bowl games regardless of national standing and if one of the lowly non-BCS schools manages to really excel, they'll get a peek into the ballroom, otherwise they're locked out of the game.
It isn't a matter of whether or not Boise State or Utah deserve to get a bowl game - the problem is that this year, like years past, there will be several teams playing in BCS bowls who don't deserve to be there. But, as others have said, it's not going to change because none of the BCS conferences will voluntarily give up the gravy train that comes with the bowl games. Why should they put themselves in the position of having their conference earn a berth when they can have it given to them?