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Hot August sun presents opportunity for solar power in the West
Submitted by Rocky Barker on Fri, 08/15/2008 - 8:49am.
European and Asian companies are sniffing all around the West for opportunities to invest in solar power generation in a region with millions of acres of open public lands ideal for the large collectors needed. Here in the Northwest, solar manufacturers are gearing up to meet the growing need of this expensive but clean alternative energy source.
Even though solar power is expensive its peak period is in the hot summer, the time when Idaho and other western states' power needs rise. Solar plants might not be on all the time but they may soon meet part of the peaking needs of power users across the region.
Marples Pacific Northwest Newsletter says it estimates that $3 billion of investment for solar-related businesses has already been made in the region. Idaho has at least a part of this with the $390 million Hoku Materials polysilicon production plant in Pocatello.
Hoku would supply Sanyo, the world's fourth largest manufacturer of solar panels, with polysilicon. The company is forging long term relationships with the city of Pocatello and neighboring businesses like Great Western Malting that appear to show it could expand once its current plant is finished. It already has increased its investment and is looking for even more money.
The company not only manufactures materials but also makes finished photovoltaic systems in Hawaii. It also has a division that has developed proprietary fuel cell membranes and other parts for fuel cells, another promising new energy technology.
Hoku has some similarities to Micron. It plants to produce a basic commodity of the solar industtry.
Hoku faces tough competition worldwide from seven existing solar giants who have already grabbed most of the market. But this is a giant new market that could allow Hoku to turn big quick.
Marples calls the plant a long shot.
Marples highlights Oregon’s efforts to attract alternative energy businesses with a business energy tax credit of up to $40 million a year that covers 50 percent of eligible costs for solar and other energy businesses up to five years. Whether Idaho wants to go the tax break route or another alternative to attract some of this new business, solar appears to be an opportunity the state can’t ignore.
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harnessing wind would be a great idea...
just use the posters to this site and break the props ;-ppp
Another great thing about renewable source energy
that isn't often talked about is the localization factor after construction. When you build a gas or coal plant, the major expenses for running those plants usually go out of area. When you build a wind or PV farm, the maintenance is the only major input after building, and the maintenance money stays local. This is actually a really big deal, the the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. Major tax base change. Wyoming doesn't have many taxes to speak of because of the coal and gas money they have, we could keep some of that here.
Need input
Are their any Idaho companies that are installing solar panels for home owners now? Have been reading about it off an on for 20 years, and hope to live long enough to be able to afford to install it.
I would rather see a subdivision full of panels on roofs then see our beautiful desert full of wires and collectors.
The mechanical part of the install is pretty easy
No need to hire someone for it. You can even wire most of it yourself, just be careful to keep the panels covered when you are working on them. It's a heck of a nasty shock because they are "on" as long as the sun is shining. For the complicated wiring I would come up and help you. I was a journeyman electrician in my former life.
There are numerous suppliers, I would look around on the web. For your money though, solar hot water has a far greater return on investment.
Solar hot water
For our location heating water with the sun would only work in the summer. We would have to use wood heat during the winter and conventional methods during the shoulder seasons. We have pretty much decided upon an on demand gas heater (for the new house). We are used to limited hot water anyway (takes about 5 gallons for both of us to shower.) We use gas and wood for cooking.
For under $200 we put up a solar electric fencer that can power up to 20 miles of fence. It has a small collector and battery and has been in continuous operation for about 3 years. I'd like to find something simple like that to power heat tape to keep the water from freezing, etc. Small simple affordable power units - this is what should be available for the average homeowners, not $30k complicated arrays.
Appreciate the offer to help wire stuff, but I've been dinking around with electricity for over 30 years, and am looking forward to wiring the new house. Don't think we will live long enough to get a return on an expensive set up, but we would like to incorporate some solar into the plan.
I guess I was rhetorically asking that the Statesman report on solar for homeowners and promote local businesses (if they exist).
There is a new PV technology
that seems like it will cost about 10% of current technology per watt of installed capacity. That could cut your payback down to 3 or four years, so be keeping your eye out for that.
As far as solar hot water, you might take a second look. I saw a demostration project where I a guy baked a loaf of bread in a solar oven on a 10 degree day. You won't get all of your hot water from your solar heater in the winter, but you will get at least a 10/30 degree raise of temperature, which your on demand heater would just love.
Try this link
Thanks for the link!
Good info, added it to my alternative energy favorites. The major barrier we run into is the fact that solar heat collectors for water in cold climates must use antifreeze for the liquid or the system must be drained thoroughly if freezing weather is predicted. We use more power in the winter because of heat tape and tank heaters to prevent what we call "hard water". We have tried several different solar shower bags in the summer and they work good only on the hottest summer days. (Outdoor showers are fun too!)
Our other problem is lack of direct sunlight in winter due to tall mountains to the east and west and weather is an unpredictable factor (most of last winter was cloudy, the winter before we had lots of sun, but very cold.)
We do have a good south facing path of sunlight during the summer, (one of the reasons I chose this property to buy) and the roof will be oriented for that. I've been messing around with window "quilts" over the years, and have several passive/solar design books I bought in the 70's.
I've used solar ovens, neat way to cook stuff. I've also used heated rocks, and not too bad at the dutch oven hole in the ground stuff.
I'm excited about the new nano stuff INL is working on.
http://www.inl.gov/technicalpublications/Documents/3992778.pdf
I can see some cool future applications, like maybe a hat will power a walkman.
Ah, I didn't account for the canyon
You do actually need sunlight to run solar stuff.
Go exploring on that website. It has an impressive amount of very good info, some of it simple, and some of it over my head.
I need new fans and a better circuit to handle a 2nd window a/c.
Guess WATT...the electrician's comin'! My landlord's awesome!