Childs, Hamdan talk; Mackey adjusts

By Chadd Cripe
ccripe@idahostatesman.com

Boise State junior wide receiver Jeremy Childs met with the media Tuesday for the first time since he was suspended for the 2007 Hawaii Bowl and 2008 season opener against Idaho State.

Childs was suspended from school for the spring semester. He worked out with teammates during the summer and officially rejoined the roster Monday when fall camp opened.

Childs began by giving a statement to the media. Reporters were told they couldn’t ask any questions about the circumstances surrounding Childs’ suspensions.

"First, I want to apologize to the city of Boise, to the school and the team for what happened in the spring,” Childs said. “It was an honest mistake. I regret the mistake. I want to thank the coaches, my team for accepting me back. The athletic director. The vice president. The assistant vice president. One of my teachers. My family for the support and everybody in the community who supported me. I'm looking forward to the season and getting ready to be back with the team and getting rolling."

Childs was an All-WAC first-teamer last season, when he set a school record with 82 receptions. He said missing spring ball and winter conditioning might affect him a little bit, but he worked out with a couple of pro football players during his time away.

“I’m just trying to get back out there and play hard, play better than I did last year,” he said. “I just feel like I’m starting all over again. I’ve got to earn my way, work my way up.”

We’ll have more about Childs in Wednesday’s edition of the Idaho Statesman.

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Senior quarterback Bush Hamdan said Tuesday that surging confidence has helped him rebound from a frustrating 2007 and make a strong run at the starting job in 2008.

“When I’m rolling with the guys and I feel like I’ve got the guys behind me, I feel like I’m unstoppable,” he said. “And there are times when things kind of go on and reps start to get cut for whatever reason and you start to go down a little bit. It’s just a mental battle.”

Hamdan has looked sharp during the first two days of fall camp. He and freshman Kellen Moore entered fall camp in a dead heat for the starting job.

“We’re on the same page,” Hamdan said. “Whatever happens, I’m going to be there for him and he’s going to be there for me. He’s a great player. He’s ahead in a lot of ways with the game than a lot of us were. … He had a heck of a spring.”

Hamdan also was locked in a duel for the starting job last fall. Then-senior Taylor Tharp won the job.

Hamdan slipped as low as fourth on the depth chart during the season but finished the season as the unquestioned backup.

“I think, mentally, the summer was really good for me,” Hamdan said. “Last year was draining for me — going from potentially being the starter to legitimately dropping to the fourth string without knowing why. I’d like to think I had a great summer. I’m fresh and I’m ready to get back into this thing.”

We’ll have more on Hamdan in Wednesday’s edition of the Idaho Statesman.

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The veterans’ morning practice had a couple of moments that highlight the competitiveness involved in fall camp.

During one-on-one drills with the running backs, tight ends and linebackers, coaches set up a battle between fullback Andy Silsby and freshman linebacker Hunter White. Hamdan tossed a short strike to Silsby, who slipped tight coverage from White for what would have been a big gain.

“Play of the day!” tight end Chris Strausser shouted as he jogged past the media.

“Best backs in the country,” Hamdan added. “Put that in the newspaper.”

Later, tight end Kyle Efaw and safety Jason Robinson collided on a pass over the middle. Robinson deflected the ball high into the air and White grabbed it for an interception.

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Daron Mackey, a junior-college transfer from Bakersfield, Calif., is expected to play a role at linebacker this year. He does have a redshirt year available.

“He will be in the mix,” defensive coordinator Justin Wilcox said. “We’ll see what he can do.”

Mackey has practiced at weak-side linebacker with the newcomers during the first two days of fall camp. He grabbed an interception in his first practice.

“It’s a little different, a little fast,” he said of major college football. “It’s not as hard as I thought it would be, though.”

Mackey has been waiting two years for this opportunity. He was pushed to Bakersfield College because he didn’t meet NCAA academic requirements out of high school — a setback that Mackey considers a blessing. He lived at home the past two years while playing at Bakersfield.

“I always wanted to play D-I football — that was my dream,” Mackey said. “Going to JC was the best thing for me. I wasn’t mature enough. … Two years ago, I would have been homesick and probably would have wanted to go back.”

So generic an apology...sure he didn't get it somewhere?

LOL

LOL!

I think Wordperfect templates are considered open source.

On a different note, I am glad to hear this was an honest mistake and not a dishonest mistake. That must be the reason his suspension was only for one semester and two games.

All mixed up...

Open source does not equal freeware. Open source denotes a program where it is permissable to revise and re-engineer the source code as long as you acknowledge the source and allow it to be modified itself when you send it live.

Corel holds all the copyrights and technical data as propriatary except for some materials deemed public such as a few AU sound files I think used for Presentations. Various routines are licensed from other companies and that makes the entire program more or less PROTECTED.

WordPerfect is now in it's 14th or 15th edition and passed from WordPefect Corp. to Novell to Corel. I have used WP since DOS version 4.2 (older than you?) and I cannot fathom Word a lot.

NFL players?

Which ones, I wonder.

I know he's friends with Orlando Scandrick

But I dont know who else, maybe young CB's from Dallas.

Well...

He is apologizing but not saying what he is apologizing for. Must have used Giambi's media statement after the grand jury leak.

what did he do?

what did he do?

he...

he basically plagiarized-----cheated and got caught.

Sad, so sad....

Though I am a huge fan of BSU football, and attend almost every home game, I am saddened that Childs just got a slap in the wrist. When I was in college that kind of behavior was not condoned.....but I guess you have to be a football player to get the star treatment. If I have had done what he did, I would have been expelled, not suspended for one semester and allowed to return and still participate in a sport I received a scholarship for.

Slap on the wrist?

Childs missed the bowl game, a whole semester of school and will miss the opener. That's roughly 6 months of punishment.

The punishment completely depends on the conditions surrounding the incident. NCAA privacy rules prevent us from know EXACTLY what happened I was in 2-3 classes at Boise State where plagiarism occurred and non of the people were 'expelled'.

Plagiarism rules vary by class and the severity of the punishment varies by violations.

Sad????

So do you KNOW exactly what he did??? Or are you just going off of the rumors about why he was suspended? If I recall, it was never OFFICIALLY released as to why he was suspended, just rumors and conjectures from people who "claimed" they knew....

SO, if you dont know for sure what was done wrong, then you should be hesitent to say that he wasn't punished harshly enough....

I LOVE how everybody thinks they know it all, when in fact there are only a handful who know the real story.....

as read in the idaho statesman

Brother says Boise State's Jeremy Childs is suspended for semester
After plagiarism issue and appeal process, receiver could rejoin program this summer
dated: 1/30/08

http://www.idahostatesman.com/124/story/279799.html

Boise State wide receiver Jeremy Childs has been suspended from school for this semester, but could return to the football program this summer for his junior year, his brother told the Idaho Statesman on Tuesday.

Childs originally was suspended from school for a year because of plagiarism, said Jared Duren, Childs' brother and a former Boise State football player.

Through two appeals, the penalty was reduced to one semester, according to Duren, who said he talks to Childs every day.

Childs will miss the team's 15 spring practices, starting March 10..............

as read.......

Again....you are going off of his BROTHER'S interpretation of what happened.... not what REALLY happened. After his brother gets done telling his side of it, and then whatever mistakes the Statesman makes in reporting, who knows what really happened other than Childs and a few admin people at BSU.

Coach Peterson would be the LAST guy to put up with bad behavior, and if the school let Childs back in, and if Peterson says he has paid the price, then that should be good enough....

All you anti-athlete people need to relax and quit trying to come up with conspiracy theories about how the world is helping athletes/famous people succeed, but keeping YOU down. GET OVER IT!!!

Go Broncos!!!!

Don't turn this into something it's not

"I am saddened that Childs just got a slap in the wrist."

BFD. The dude alledgedly plagerized. Erika, I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'll bet you could come up w/ where you've done the same. How do I know? Well because every person who has been through any education has done it.

Add to it that plagerizism outside of school and writing a book, is refered to as "best practices."

According to http://webster.commnet.edu/mla/plagiarism.shtml, "The penalty for plagiarism is usually determined by the instructor teaching the course involved. In many schools and colleges, it could involve failure for the paper and it could mean failure for the entire course and even expulsion from school."

He got the worst possible punishment possible, probably BECAUSE he was a football player.

To think that the school's punishment of being kicked out for a freaking YEAR isn't harsh enough shows that no matter what they did, you'd feel like he "got off easy because he's a football player."

The only reason he's back now is because he had to fight through an appeal and won. Go back and read what Petersen's take was on all this. It was "He made a mistake and he'll pay the price."

As much as you want to make it out that he got off easy, he didn't.

calm down

Calm down....what is he, your boyfriend? Then I guess his brother is lying about him to the media.

And yes, go Broncos!

I'm confused...

how can cheating (or plagiarism) be considered an "honest" mistake?

it's not.

It's not an honest mistake unless you are a star player.

If you honestly forget to cite a source...

it could be considered plagarism. Depends on the style being used, and how it was presented in the paper. Had it happen to me on a research paper, but the professor called it out and had me re-submit with the proper citation in place. However, he raised that spector of plagarism during the conversation just to drive the point home of not being careless with citing other authors' works.

Cheated and was caught

and a slap on the wrist, cause BSU football needs him, that's why. Who else is going to catch a ball? It's a good thing he can or he would be done.

What are talking about.

uhhhh

Titus Young
Austin Pettis
Vinny Peretta
Julian Hawkins

Oh yeah and this guy...Ian.

Everybody else in the WAC would kill to get any previously named player.

I do believe he's got it!

+1

P.S.

Go Broncos!

South End Zone

Hey I was on the Southern Miss site checkin out the Eagle for the upcoming game. Take a look a the photo gallery and check out their new south endzone complex. http://southernmiss.cstv.com/facilities/roberts-stadium.html

I think that it is sweet. The Bronc admin should check it out when down south this year!

And You...

all are perfect and never made any mistake when you were 20 or 21 years old either "RIGHT", give the kid a break he made a mistake and payed the consequences for it by missing the bowl game and a semester of school and the first game of this year. I think the kid has served punishment enough.

...

He didn't pay the consequences that other students would hvae to endure if they did what he did.

re: ......

AGAIN.....you dont KNOW what he did. you are only assuming.

get over it.

Let me say this again

Anybody that thinks that plagiarism is a stiffly enforced and regularly detected issue at Boise State is out of his or her mind. I ran into a student in my senior project class that didn't even know what plagiarism is and that he/she had done it in deliverables for the whole team, causing a ton of re-work for other team members.

Further, I know of one professor who did press the issue of plagiarism and that professor's reward for pursuing it was to be sent down to lower division courses until the student who was guilty passed the required upper division courses so as not to damage the student's chances of getting fair (i.e. good) grades in those upper division courses. How likely do you think it is that the professor in question is EVER going to pursue a case of plagiarism?

So your statement, to me, comes from a lack of knowledge and understanding. But I doubt that will change your perspective.

You have no clue what your talking about

I personally know a student that got caught plagiarizing at college and he didn't even get suspended, it was dealt with by the professor. I say he probably got worse than a normal student because he was BSU's star receiver.

erika

are your shoes tied too tight?

One thing

is that Chris Peterson doesn't strike me as the kind of person who would put up with something blatant, and BSU's policy is to suspend the student who is accused of plagerism. The fact that Childs was allowed back in school and back on the football team probably means that it was an honest mistake, otherwise he at least would probably not be playing anymore. Besides plagerism can get a little confusing if you do not understand it completely. I say best of luck to Childs and look forward to seeing him on the field

SHAME SHAME SHAME ON YOU

Shame on you IdahoStatesman.Com! Censorship is alive and well at the Idaho Statesrag.

My original comments have been removed for my Anti-Idaho Vandals Hater response comments....

Guess the Black and Yellow blood flows freely through the halls of the Statesrag!

SHAME SHAME SAHME ON YOU !

GO Broncos!

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I'm no Bronco fan

but Chris Petersen doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who's going to let character problems run rampant. He's going to have to accept a certain degree of issues, like any D1 college football coach, but he seems like a class guy. He's got a lot of Duck blood running through his veins, after all.

In my opinion the punishment fit the crime in this case.

definition of Plagerism

Whatever happened happened. I will make a few comments. After being run through a grad program, at BSU, and teaching for a short time there, it became quite apparent that the definition of plagerism, and the interpretation of plagerism, is pretty wide open. It can be a simple "mistake" like failing to cite a source, or NOT CLEARLY defining what information came from a source and what is considered independent analysis. Also, there is a grey area in the definition of public knowledge and proprietary knowledge.

An honest mistake is forgetting to cite a source. A dishonest mistake is purposely misrepresenting ones thoughts as your own. I do know that BSU has a ZERO tolerance policy, (as it should) concerning plagerism. If nothing else, it builds academic disipline....

Whatever Chris Childs did, he did.... let's let it go.... knowing the culture at BSU, set forth by the administration, I am sure Chris Childs suffered the appropriate disipline and nobody let him slide...

Very interesting

I noticed that the definition of this word is very similar to the word "plagiarism".

SAVE THE BLOOD ORGIES FOR THE ACTUAL GAMES, KIDS?

Go build a bridge. Ours are getting rather OLD.

So is this crap.

You mean Jeremy Childs

Chris Childs was probably somebody you taught while at BSU, and was one heck of a point guard.

Ha ha that's right. Basketball!

Put that Bavarian creme donut and coffee on my tab! Thanks.