I got an e-mail from a good friend, taking me to task for style="text-decoration:underline;">our Thursday editorial on the Farm Bill.
"You think government can help stop obesity," he wrote. "Funny stuff."
So I e-mailed back and told him to shut up and eat his celery. Perhaps that helps explain why I have fewer good friends.
Anyway, it got me to rereading the editorial.
We didn't say the bloated bureaucracy of federal government could make us all thinner. What we did say is that a Farm Bill doles out billions of dollars in commodity programs, and not necessarily for food products that foster healthy eating. The proposed Farm Bill takes small steps to encourage growers to raise fruits and veggies, and get fresh produce into our school lunchrooms — but it doesn't do much.
So before we shell out billions in farm programs, shouldn't we think about whether these payments subsidize the foods that exacerbate our national obesity problem — and the resulting public health costs that come attached? Seems like a no-brainer.
Now I understand high-fat, high-sugar junk food and fast foods aren't the sole cause of our obesity problems. And I understand there are a lot of reasons Americans reach for junk foods — the stuff is easily accessible, tirelessly marketed and, I'll be the first to admit, pretty darned tasty.
But let's admit this too: Cost is a factor.
I learned from experience. In 2004, I went on a serious diet. Big Government didn't tell me to do it (thank goodness). My body told me to. I had high blood pressure and was starting to show what the doctors call pre-diabetic conditions. Diabetes certainly contributed to my father's passing a few years earlier, so I knew it was time to get busy.
I was mentally prepared to fight the cravings for junk food. I wasn't prepared for the sticker shock at the supermarket. Fresh fruits and vegetables cost more than many prepared foods, often considerably more. So it took will power to stay on a diet, and a willingness to pay more at the checkout stand. I stuck with it and lost about 50 pounds, most of which remains missing (heading into the temptations of Christmas season).
It wasn't easy. It wasn't cheap. And now, when I go to the grocery store and see other shoppers with carts loaded with cheap and unhealthy junk foods and prepared foods, I can't help wonder why folks are buying what they buy. Cravings? Force of habit? Or sticking to a budget? It's none of my business. It's not government's business either. But it's troubling nonetheless.
I'm really trying not to sound like one of those annoying healthy lifestyle zealots. Sometimes I eat a cheeseburger — and if Uncle Sam has a problem with that, he can pry it from my cold, dead greasy hands. But I try to make as many good dietary choices, despite the temptations. And the cost.
That's my point. So pass the celery and give me your feedback.

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Everybody wants the $ but at what cost?
How did it come to be that everybody who wants $, contributes to our employees & gets our $. I have to believe that after 50 plus years of handing out tax $ to agri corruption, the damage would be the news as much as the unhealthy food. Healthy food farmers will get a few million while We the fat & unhealthy People paid trillions to billionaires who contributed millions. Pennies on the dollar! One of the reasons our health care costs are so high is because our employees gave trillions of our tax $ to billionaire farmers who raised unhealthy food & sold it for more than we realize because we didn't factor in the subsidies.
Insurance & drug companies, {contributors} have & are making trillions on US on the other end, when we're fat, sick & dying. Our representatives, on our payroll, give tax cuts & incentives every chance they get, we have a $9 trillion debt, & sick as a dog.
Does anybody ever ask why our representatives broke unions & brough in illgeal immigrants? I would think by now it has been proven that poor people don't support the eeconomy as well as middle class people yet governmnet is breaking the middle class.
Government employee unions are the only unions that don't get busted. Why is it that when it comes out of taxpayers pocket, there is always plenty of money?
Why did our representatives pay small family dairy
operations our tax $ to quit milking? 30,000 cow contributors! Why do we hand out billions in subsidies & promote cheap labor as well? Shouldn't they have to pay decent wages if they get our tax $? I would think agri corruption would have a different minimum wage since they get so much of our money.
How much damage has illegal immigration done to the health care system & how has it affected health insurance costs? Meatpacking unions were busted & illegal immigrants brought in only to be abused while contributors who paid off our politicians left US to pay for injuries to illegal immigrants while contributors counted their $.
Why do we as the boss & shareholders in the biggest corporation & largest employer have the worse managment? We need to do as all the corporations who buy our employees do.
How may employees do we have? City, county, state, & federal?
Everyday you read about another company cutting jobs but not the US government. Time for some pay cuts. First the politicians
& then work our way down the ladder. I used to work for state government, I know about all the birthday parties on the clock, & all the other crap you don't see in private industry.
Our government is promoting poverty for the people who fight the wars, do the work, & support this nation while making the greatest sacrifices. Government has it backwards. If a guy makes $7 an hour he pays less in taxes & buys less because he has less then pays less in sale tax.
Our infrastructure is $1.6 trillions behind & with all the growth not getting better any time soon. Developers are making out like a bandit. No kickbacks for our representatives there?
Buying cheap crap from China is making China $, making contributors $, but isn't doing the average American much good.
Otter wants to increase vehicle taxes, registration. If Otter & all the people we pay can't come up with any better ideas than that I'd say we better find somebody who will.
I could find all kinds of ways to cut our costs. If I'm not mistaken we need $ for corrections & a detox center also. Well Butch, if the state weren't paying employees to sell liquor & provide benefits to them too, you might save some money. Let private industry employ the people who sell booze, the booze would still sell with emploees on somebody else's payroll. What about the county garbage business? Let private induistry handle it.
There sure is a lot of money contributed to all these politicians who can't seem to find any money. Maybe we should demand all the $ contributed cover the cost of roads, prisons, schools, hospitals, & all we pay for. Seems fitting that we take advantage of the money rather than politicians like Larry Craig who is using contributions for his legal fees.
Give our representatives points for campaigning, like a card at Albertsons, Fred Myers, or Pauls. Give bonus points/time on TV, radio, & newspapers for $ contributed to their campaigns. A minute air time for every $100,000 they bring in.
Why should we give all our tax $ to contributors & pay for all the roads they use to move their product? Why should we pay politicians who take this money, give our money away, & then don't have the imagination to find $ to pay for all our needs?
That's poor management on our part! We need to do as the corporations that contribute do! Everyone needs to sign on together & demand those contributions go to our needs & not politicians on our payroll, on our time! Any $ brought in is our $, not their money. Every company in the world has a contract to make sure the company is not losing $. Even the Statesman has a contract for paper carriers.
Paper carriers can't undercut the Stratesman so why doesn't the Statesman apply the same rules in reporting campaign contributions? All the people who work for the paper pay taxes, I think. Why aren't they upset that their tax $ goes to some billionaire?
Sooner or later it will catch on & we might have some $ for roads, schools, prisons, detox, & all the other stuff in the news.
Speaking of detox. I've been writing to Otter & the Idaho Tax commissiion about something the Statesman printed the other day. Tracking these DUI arrests. Bars that send more drunks out on the road. Fine them! Bartenders who drink at work are just as impaired as drivers, worse, they send drunk drivers out the door for free drinks. What about all the tax evasion at bars like the torch? can't tell me all that cash is reported. What about the drugs? The after hours escort services like Teagues? He wasn't the only one.
Alcohol makes billions of $ & they contibute millions while we pay billions for jails, police, courts, detox. That is poor management on our part again.
There is a never ending amount of $ for all our needs if We the People start to act like business people, demand it.
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Are you BobbyMeade?
Are you BobbyMeade?
Do you have a little bit of Larry in you?
Just the first couple?
Are you my biological
Are you my biological father?
No but Larry might be.
Did you graduate from U of I & what do you buy for mom on father's day?
Mom buys her own Father's day present...
She married before I was born and still is married to this day.
You need to go back to working for Harveytoons, Casper.
kinda touchy about that aren't you?
I liked the Casper thing. Either you're catching on or somebody is helping. I bet uncle Larry stayed the night, taught you some political/U of I tricks. Happy New Year! Idaho got more respect when white supremacist were the problem. Get on board to tax campaign contributions & I'll quit kicking you.
I don't know, maybe you like paying corporate un-America & agri corruption's taxes. That would sure be patridiot of you.
I wish you luck in your future sobriety.
Right now you have Larry Flynt's sense of humor and no idea what to do.
My name is Steven, what did your mom name you when she got the bill?
Kidnapped by the pervert, the TV kid?
I'm sorry. Glad that you have recovered & now a pillar of society.
Babble on...
I don't know what universe you are reporting from now. You've completely lost your mind. Congratulations.
Now that you are completely useless and have taken to chasing me around for the most part, admit that neither of us has a clue anymore. You're not a very good troll.
Say hello to some guy named Don, if that means anything to you.
You are what you eat.
Stop eating.
You can lead a horse to water?
Prostitute yourself out to government/campaign finance/taxes.
I've got stereo crap.
Who cares?
Other than you.
I think I'll have a word with the hall monitor.
YES, you can lead a horse to water...
but you can't make it appreciate the Grateful Dead.
Stop eating & appreciate the dead
With that attitude you'll soon be one. Is it the drugs? Sounds like the kind of guy who stops by for a cool one from time to time.
I'll be dead if you hit my bicycle
I haven't touched alcohol since 1992, so it had better be Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi.
Please run along. Your arguments are calling your name elsewhere.
Lithium was created by god and now it's a generic drug.
PS I know a lot of dead people...
When you get over your macho jingoist venting, I'll see you later.
We're ALL grumpy like that lately, Pearl Harbor or not.
My dad was a Seabee, one of my uncles an Air Force mechanic for many years and I had at least one uncle serve in Vietnam.
John Ogburn died in Iraq and was my co-worker once.
I tire of such nonsense.
regards, FO
EVERYBODY HAS LOST SOMEBODY IN BATTLE. None of us disrespect the deceased.
I hope you have on your depends, you're stinking it up.
Nov, 11 or 12-07 Time mag.: Farm Subs.
Statesman, 12-10-07: Farm subs.
Statesman, 12-10-07: Risch & Larocco expensive race.
Statesman, 12-9-07: Alaska lawmaker gets six years.
Sorry buddy but it was never about you. Go back to the beginning & take notes if you can't keep up. Ask & someone will be with you shortly should you not understand. Try to play games & people play games on you.
Your representatives aren't representing you, they're representing contributors & themselves at your expense. They're playing games on you.
Be the boss, a shareholder in the largest corporation in the world, America. Do the shareholders of the corporations which buy your representation allow their ceo & boardmembers to accept $ from outside influnce while costing their shareholders $? Why would you?
If we all told our representatives the campaign contributions would no longer be for their camapign but used for schools, health care, & so on & they would be allowed so many minutes on pubic TV for every $100,000 contributed to them, wouldn't We pay less taxes?
Corporations used to pay 50% of taxes, they now pay 10% & you pay the rest. Why? Campaign contributions. America has a $9 trillion debt. Why? Campaign contributions. Every America owes $30K to this $9 trillion debt. Are you paying into Social Security, going to get anything from it? Add it to the $30K. You can do something about it, unless you would rather pay for it all.
I put up, Everybody wants the $, but at what costs? You reacted with jibberish. Now you're upset. Relax pal, don't let it ruin your day. You might do better to understand & correct the misrepresentation costing you so much $ while your relatives fight in wars like Vietnam which was a lie just like Iraq.
It's not about you either...
It was your lie also. Graduate to Usenet. I'm 41 and you can be so silly with the macho posturing. I've heard it for over 10 years and it's bitter oatmeal.
regards,
foreignoregonian, born in Nampa and here all but 2 1/2 years.
the internet is so predictable, improve it
Good grief...
why do you even continue this nonsense then?
It means absolutely nothing to me and if you thought about it for a while, you'd talk about snow or something.
It's retarded to waste your life yelling about it in a blog or on Usenet when very few post to it and those that do scare off the others.
This is for commentary, not policy making. Having an argument with a lifelong Treasure Valley (minus 2.5 yrs in Morrow County, OR when dad moved there) is futile and you aren't going to make anybody change their minds either. What were you getting at anyhow beside being the moody Dwarf? I am amused at all the scatalogical references as it took a few decades to master your style.
Why do I care? Because you can do better.
Thank you for writing and I'm happy some guy in Nampa doesn't get to bug me with his big white jacked-up truck anymore since I sold my car in February 2005.
It's funny how you think I haven't done or seen all this. I worked at Red Apple for 2 1/2 years and I've lived in Ontario and Nyssa for nearly 30 years and Nampa for most of the first 12.
Wherever you hail from, welcome to wherever you are and thanks for posting.
Okay, if you take THAT angle...
which is socialistic anyway, it goes to prove simply that everything supports everything else in whatever proportions you care to overemphasize it to, and it's still a load of paranoid jingo horsewallop and thoroughly meaningless.
"Republicans" are really grumpy socialists with more time on their hands to worry about money.
Me, I'm tired of conforming to living on dirt but I have no money to rub in.
SUMMARY: Nobody has any point whatsoever, just eat, sleep and die like all before or since. PIMP IT OR WIMP IT.
Why do you fight so hard to pay taxes evaded by others?
Is it an Idaho thing? Can't be, everybody in the nation is complaining about property taxes, fuel costs, war, Social Security, $ for education, $9 trillion debt, & a list perpetual yet when I offer an idea to make corporate America pay their share, you bulk, you fight it.
If you want to pay all the taxes you can pay mine too. Fights over? I don't get it. Like to be taken advantage of, bend over, & take it like a man? Why do you blog if it gets you so uptight?
You have your say but can't stand it if anyone else does? You all about something one minute than contradict yourself the next. What big white truck, where did that come from? If you have any more of that stuff, would you share? I can't afford to go anywhere but feel like a trip.
An expert without an opinion who can't stand it when someone has a solution or makes suggestions to get working class people out from under the man?
It's called blogging. I missed the rules saying just commentary, not making poilcy. Don't realize being a lifelong resident unables one to accept change or have some say in government. You pay taxes, you vote, you have kids? Do something for them if not yourself.
Your kids will ask you twenty years from now why you didn't do something about this mess & all you'll be able to say is. Some guy had all these ideas & I was confused. I was too busy paying all corporate unAmerica's taxes to worry about you kids. Then they can tell their kids, {your grandkids} they can't go to college because grandpa was confused & now dad is confused, & you'll be confused too son. Have locals been so beaten down they can't think or stand up for themselves? You sound like you want to get mad, have at it. I have four older brothers, it won't bother me. Knock yourself out.
Be a shareholder, be the boss. It's easy. Make your representatives do the job you pay them for just like your boss makes you. It's not about me doing better, it's about US taxpayers! All of US, United, a union, you know, We the People.
It's 2007, you're on a computer, it's the 21st century. Never mind, I'm beating a dead horse. Government loves a guy like you.
Common mistake...
Mistaking blogs for actual 'out-there' journalism.
It's an opinion with pro and con followups and despite the WW and W it's not all that visible unless you are freaky or semi-famous and have cool friends.
There are about 15 people in Idaho Radio News, for instance (I'm being facetious but). I dare say I've met most of them.
You guys are about as anonymous as what was in the stuff I had for dinner last Tuesday. Hopefully that isn't so offline.
Go forth and do whatcha do and don't skid going home. You are needed.
Green acres, Are you in a county commissionairy position.
Hey, Kimbill, where's Arnaold? Freak! It's Christmas, show some respect you damn foooool. Any posimum left? Did you eat all the tree rat?
Skid marks are in yer shorts, laundry day tomorrow?
How dare you besmirch...
our beloved Arnold? He was an EXCELLENT PIG!
Barely Christmas, Happy Hoohah!
Load the vinegar gun, 1st mate. Sounds like back to being 'astounding' again.
Kevin,
You ask a valid question about why the fresh, healthy foods cost so much more than the over-processed, over-salted, over-sugared boxed crap.
I've heard people complain about foodstamp users getting fat off the government. Ain't hard to do when all you can afford to feed your kids is mac 'n cheese and potatoes.
Greyghost
Personally, I agree with most everything you said. We are currently seeing the results of Reagonomics- deregulation of banks and insurance companies, the destruction of Roosevelt's New Deal policies by the Republican party, the ruin of antitrust laws.
The Farm Bill was always meant to keep food affordable, but it now has been so manipulated it's no longer even fufilling that need. I don't know what's in that bill this time around, but if groups of farmers are against it, it must be seriously misdirected.
Unfortunately, I think we have gone too far, and I don’t believe that repair is even possible. We are currently unable to get out of a war that is bleeding us dry, we’ve lost so many jobs, etc. etc.
I don't even think I'm going to bother to vote anymore, after all the idiots are running this asylum.
That's the worst thing you can do OR...
maybe in the case, it's the other way around, if you are going to dredge ol' Ronnie's bones.
The reason people live on Mac and Cheese is because in my case and many others there really AREN'T enough FOOD STAMPS coming to eat well and then there are artificial high prices so the farmer doesn't have to do stuff either, ANY farmer and not just corporate or whatever. How are you gonna keep 'em (DOWN) on the farm when they see ethanol?
In case you are wondering, is 52 dollars in FS benefits WELFARE? The food bank will give 1 person close to that value IF they have anything 12 TIMES A YEAR and the Catholics here top that twice monthly. That's three trips a month and not even that if times aren't that hard...earth to Joe Boisean, HELL YEAH they are. I can spend 160 dollars AND Stamps lately and not live as well as I did on 150 1 1/2 years ago. I don't drive a car and I fight tooth and nail to have a Top Of The Line 1997 entertainment center, doing most of the work myself and actually gaining skills while at it. Meat is Murder for an entirely different reason.
The Church must be heavily burdoned. God bless them too.
Isn't that proof enough? Voting in the big spender!
Corporate welfare makes it too easy to do nothing. In the case of corporate welfare it's an investment in which we pay all the taxes, representatives, their health care, retirement, which we lose more of everyday. In the 1940's corporations paid 50% of taxes & today they pay 10%. What they used to pay in taxes they contribute in 2007 & get billions in return. Pennies on the dollar, it's business we as taxpayers better learn to use in running America. Confiscate the contributions as a tax to offset the $9 trillon debt we're stuck with because of it!
That is why I suggest taxing campaign contributions. Tax contributions given to politicians not yet on our payroll & take as taxes, contributions given to politicians on our payroll. Hold those companies to the same or equivilent $ amount every year to all they contribute as it obviously pays off for them while costing US taxpayers. They contribute a million to one party & $750K to the other party for a reason, so their horse can't lose. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting another tax or tax hike. Property, auto registraion, fuel, & yet contributors are getting tax cuts? Craig uses contributions for personal legal fees, use it to pay for schools.
I contradict myself by suggesting a tax on alcohol but it is at the center of so many problems it is costing US taxpayers a fortune so it can't be ignored. Let the people & corporations making the money pay to fix the problems it creates.
It's time the American people take a look at why we have all the problems we have. Act like shareholders & evaluate your company. Where are you making or losing $. That is how & why corporations pay CEOs, board members, & lobbyist millions & contribute millions to our representatives. They get billions in tax cuts & incentives in return, your tax $. If they can't make $ the same way taxpayers do, through hard work, why would we give them tax cuts.
Baseball , basketball, football players, musicians, & everyone under the sun is ripped off by crooked accountants/managers & we're being ripped off by our representatives & contributors!
Illegal immigration: Agri corruption & meatpacking have contributed & our misrepresentatives have helped break unions & promoted illegal immigration for fifty years. Look at all the problems that come with illegal immigration. Not just in the past but the future. Look at all the jobs lost by Americans who used to do those jobs for a living wage 30 years ago. It's just beginning, representatives promoted it & now they can't or won't fix it. Illegal immigrants have more representation that citizens who along with family have paid millions in taxes only to make less per hour & lose health care today then 30 years ago.
Health care, crime, prisons, courts, police, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Homeland Security, & it all comes back to what our representatives do while on our payroll, handing out our tax $ to contributors to get & keep them in office. They aren't going to fix it or accept responsibility. It's up to the people & when they won't do anything but vote in the next big spender who accepted the most through campaign finance we lose.
Sign on together & numbers will make politicians take action or be proven misrepresentatives. That is why I started www.nextrevolution.net
My boss was stealing federal excess military property & more while politicians in Nebraska tried harder to cover up than stop the stealing or end a program that outlived it's original concept years earlier. Politicians & the state were siphoning too much federal $ from the FEPP program to just let it go. US Senator Chuck Hagel told me ten years ago that these federal programs get started & never end.
Too bad US soldiers are dying without equipment while representatives try harder to cover up the waste & theft. Even worse the taxpayers who bought the military equipment the first time & used it to defend America were being ripped off by the state of Nebraska for labor never done on 6x6 trucks they leased & never received title to. Now their kids & grandkids are dying in Iraq in a war based on lies because they don't have equipment?
The American taxpayer is being taken in the biggest scam the world has ever seen. CAMPAIGN FINANCE! They have taken US for $9 trillion to date in the national debt alone. Add in all the problems associated with it, like health care costs & it is unbelieveable. You going to buy into another four years of the same under a different name but the same coprorate $? Yep!
How does Arnold like that 1997 home entertainment center? I bet he's watching porn, pig is just about ready for dinner.
Taxing Campaign Contributions
I don't think I've ever heard that idea before, but maybe its really a good idea. I still think the simplest and the fairest plan is tax payer financing- each one gets the same amount of money and the same amount of air time. Nobody gets to buy the election.
As for people acting like "shareholders" the problem is most of us feel that we have no say and no control. We feel powerless
That is what www.nextrevolution.net is all about
Ideas! I like the thought of nobody buying an election but with campaign finance that is exactly what we have. We need to quit feeling powerless & get in the game. Be the boss, together!
Would your boss let you accept $100,000 from an outside source & then allow you to give that outside source what amounts to $500,000 of your boss's money? Why do we as taxpayer/shareholders? The average guy needs to empower himself through the technology of the 21st century & tell our representatives what we want. You are all on a blog, sign on together on each other's ideas that would save you $, generate $, or take the $ government is wasting & use that $ for your needs. Education for example.
Campaign finance has been costing US trillions, illegal immigrations alone as a favor to contributors as cheap labor is breaking our health care. The corporations & politicians promoting illegal immigration act like they have no idea how it came about, they made it happen through campaign finance. It's time to hold them accountable.
Want money for eduation & tired of it coming from your property taxes? All the people complaining about property taxes need to sign on together on ideas like taxing campaign contributions which result in their tax $ going to contributors in tax cuts! Those contributions are good enough for Larry Craig's personal legal fees so they're good enough to fund education.
Why do, as these politicians tell us when we get stuck paying the taxes evaded through campain finance they are getting rich on? We the People, it's written all over the constitution. Teach kids in school to be the boss & twenty years from now you will have what Bush suggest we be, an ownership society. Don't just pay for everything, get some of the benfits of being an American citizen you & your families have fought & died for.
They didn't sacrifice as they did so politicians & corporate unAmerica could get rich.
Not one of the representatives we have in office would sacrifice as We the People do. Ask them to hand over contributions & see for yourself. It's ok by them that an eighteen year old kid would go to war & die for his country but would the same politicians go along with giving that money to their boss, that same kid? Everyone born in the US is $30K in debt the second they're born, tell me they don't have a stake & shouldn't have a say. These politicians are cheating US taxpayers out of trillions of $!
B---- anyway...
I don't believe it and I don't care. You got what you planted and you need to burn the fields but you won't because it would take the "land" out of use too long for your liking.
Artificial boundaries and self-imposed constraints become a system after a while.
Stop blogging and start doing.
Apparently Christmas is over...
and it's back to waiting for the crucifixion again.